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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (10606)	3/19/2007 6:44:07 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 36917

Past and future hearings Should be on C-Span and I think CNN said they would have it. March 18, 2007 Getting Warmed Up for Hearings, Hearings, Hearings The brand-new, crafted-for-public-relations House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming has yet to start operations, but nothing halts the hearings express on climate change. Wednesday's media coverage will no doubt be Al Gore, Al the Time. TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2007 House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Energy and Air Quality hearing, “Climate Change: Perspectives of Utility CEOs.” Invited witnesses include Mike Morris (American Electric Power), Gary Rainwater (Ameren), Jim Rogers (Duke), David Sokol (MidAmerican) and Jeff Sterba (PNM). The hearing will be held March 20, 9:30 a.m. (2123 Rayburn Building). WEDNESDAY, MARCH 21, 2007 Subcommittee on Energy and Air Quality will hold a joint hearing with the Subcommittee on Energy and Environment of the Committee on Science and Technology entitled "Perspectives on Climate Change." 9:30 a.m. in room 2123 Rayburn House Office Building Witnesses: Former Vice President Al Gore and Dr. Bjørn Lomborg, Adjunct Professor, Copenhagen Consensus Center, Copenhagen Business School SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT & PUBLIC WORKS FULL COMMITTEE: Vice President Al Gore’s Perspective on Global Warming Wednesday, March 21, 2007 02:30 PM SD-106 Dirksen Senate Office Building - SD-106 While the Global Warming Committee has yet to schedule any hearings, or even launched a web page, it does have a new staff director. Chairman Ed Markey, D-MA, announced the appointment of his longtime chief of staff, David Moulton, to the post last week. BTW, the reference above to the committee's PR purpose is not cynical at all. Markey states as much. From the Washington Post's "In the Loop" column: "I think we can visit Greenland -- take the members there to look at it," the Massachusetts Democrat is saying like a man who was just handed $1.7 million to travel the world, which in fact is pretty close to the deal. "You can see in Greenland . . . that if the huge sheet of ice -- huge, massive sheet of ice melts, that the consequences are quite catastrophic." Like the atmosphere, he is just warming up. "Our job will be to take these issues and translate them into a language that has political potency and is accessible to the public," he said. Huh. Sounds like global warming is 2007's equivalent of that once-hot, politically potent issue, the Social Security "Lockbox." Complete with Al Gore. Whatever happened to the lockbox, anyway? blog.nam.org

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (10606)	3/19/2007 7:07:53 PM
From: Behind Blue Eyes	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

The planet is getting warmer. Given. Humans are a contributing factor. Given. How far back are our scientists going to prove their points on this. Is there any merit in talking about 125000 years as a measuring stick ? A mere twinkling in the time frame of life on earth let alone geologic time ? Both sides of the debate seem quite myopic on this point... A rather small sample set methinks.. How hot was earth 200 million years ago ? Is there really any genuineness to the leaders that embrace GW.. as in Al Gore and his energy credit hypocrisy or in Canada, Dr. David Suzuki's hypocrisy on flying when a video conference would do ? There are quite simply too many people and talking about carbon neutral and reduction in burning fossil fuels etc are all bandaid solutions.. The lifestyles of the developed world need to be changed so radically and those masses in the rest of the world that hanker for that lifestyle must realise they need to forego any thoughts thereof... That is the the true problem. How warm was earth during the Carboniferous period ? How much CO2 was atmospheric ? Good questions. Anyone check that out ? Time to Crash out again .. Ida is waiting Roy High Sierra (the movie... not the club :O)