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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (90706)	3/20/2007 2:42:29 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

So did Clinton...so what?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (90706)	3/20/2007 2:53:12 PM
From: Hope Praytochange	Respond to of 173976

rat VS rat: Clinton-Obama War Feud Spills Into Forum By Adam Nagourney CAMBRIDGE, Mass. –Senior advisers to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and Senator Barack Obama clashed intensely tonight at a forum for campaign managers here over the positions of the two candidates on the war in Iraq and the tactics being used by both campaigns. The exchange occurred during what had been a civil – even placid – forum among senior advisers for three of the Democratic presidential contenders at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. The argument grew so heated that it silenced a room packed with students, faculty and reporters. It ended when Jonathan Prince, the representative of former North Carolina Senator John Edwards, shushed them to quiet down. “In reality, when they both got to the Senate, Senator Obama’s votes are exactly the same as Senator Clinton’s,” said Mark Penn, the senior strategist for her campaign. “Let’s not try to create false differences when we both agree it’s time to de-escalate; it’s time to end the war. Let’s be clear, Senator Clinton thinks that. Senator Obama thinks that. Former Senator John Edwards thinks that.” Mr. Obama’s long-time adviser, David Axelrod, leaned over to Mr. Penn: “If we had followed Senator Obama’s advice in 2002, we wouldn’t be talking about de-escalation,” he said. [updated: correction from transcript — “Senator Obama’s advice,” not “vote”] Senator Clinton voted to authorize President Bush to go to war in Iraq in 2002; she now says that she would not have cast that vote if she had known what she knows now. Senator Obama was not in the Senate at the time of the vote, but said at the time he opposed it. The exchange reflected increasing tensions between the Clinton and Obama campaigns, and the importance that the war has assumed in shaping the race, at least at this point in the campaign. Mr. Axelrod accused Mr. Penn of using partial and incorrect quotes from Mr. Obama to try to raise questions about his opposition to the war. [Comments made by former President Bill Clinton last week sparked a pushback by Obama’s campaign.] Tonight, even as a post-forum, off-the-record dinner was going on with participants, Mr. Obama’s campaign mailed out a list of quotations from Mr. Obama intended to back up Mr. Axelrod’s assertions.