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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (224945)	3/22/2007 8:50:38 AM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

Folks should never dismiss the Czechs. They were crushed by Hitler as the free world watched and then they were crushed by Stalin as the free world watched again. I would caution though that sometimes the free market comes late to the party and global warming advocates arent all bad. There is a big difference between those who identify the problem and those whose fanatical devotion to the issue leads them to a Marxist environmentalism---just as there is a big differnce between democratic socialists and communists. Part of the way the free market ultimately solves a problem is because there are activists bringing it to our attention. Radicals may be too radical but by putting the problem on the front burner they do us all a service.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (224945)	3/22/2007 11:09:28 AM
From: neolib	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

It becomes evident that while discussing climate we are not witnessing a clash of views about the environment but a clash of views about human freedom. It should come as no surprise that environmentalism and socialism are somewhat linked. Both stress the interconnections in systems, whereas Libertarianism stresses the lack of interconnections. Unfortunately, biology and hence life, is full of interconnections. The danger for those on the left is that they see the interconnections as so tight that they end up curtailing too many freedoms, and hence stifle the system. The danger for those on the right is that they deny so many of the interconnections that they deny science as well. You would find a pretty good correlation in the USA between those who like free markets, doubt the science of global warming, don't care about the environment, and think humans were created 10,000 years ago by God.