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To: Gib Bogle who wrote (15839)3/23/2007 2:55:30 PM
From: Slagle  Respond to of 217671
 
Gib,
Yes, EP was spot on, Rome of course, the "lone superpower" transitions to fascism. EP always has his thinking cap on. And classical Rome even managed to supply the term and much of the iconography to the latter day imitators.

Gib, its is really not true that in past tradition what amounted to our version of "nationalism" was associated with "a lust for empire", quite the opposite, the people didn't want it. Our single adventure in colonialism, which was a consequence of the Spanish-American War, was more of an accident than anything else. Our sole colonial possession of any size, the Philippines, wanted to remain a colony, commonwealth or become a state but the congress wouldn't allow it and they were literally expelled in 1934 and set on a path to forced independence. In the Philippines then there was a powerful "Statehood" party and there are remnants of it today.

Our "empire" as it now exists is completely a consequence of our unfortunate involvement in WWII and cold war military outposts established to contain the USSR. Presently, I truly believe that the whole apparatus exists mainly to support globalism and to protect free trade. It is a very strange species of "empire" and I would be glad to be rid of it.

Let me try to explain what you seem to believe is my "hankering for fascism". You are surely aware of the morbidly apocalyptic predictions about the future of my country by several of the prominent posters on this very message board and indeed the "collapse" term in the board title. I tend to agree with these very astute and worldly men and I believe that they may be right, that the ole USA might be headed for a really big fall. OTOH it may not happen and the country and the whole world along with it might continue to muddle along for a very long time, decades, centuries even, but I don't think this is likely. As I am as well prepared for the collapse if it comes as any, being almost self sufficient in family food production and having two fine kids who are both crack shots and advanced martial arts students, I now have the luxury to ruminate about the future. <grin>

So take the dark vision, I can imagine the USA presently being in about the same position now as Imperial Germany in say, 1917. The analogy is not perfect, but is reasonable and if the collapse comes, I can imagine a similar outcome, which very well might include a "man on a horse". We have traitors here in this country, just like Germany had, and they know very well who they are and that is why they are so frantic to enact "gun control laws" and despite past proclivities they now favor "FEMA camps" and the rest. I suppose they think that the blue helmeted UN Hessians will save them if things really get rough. We shall see.

There is an vast irrefutable Nazi/Bolshevik linkage. The Nazi party began during the war as a patriotic workers organization to oppose the communist cells operating in the munitions factories that were attempting to cripple the military and bring about a defeat in the war, mainly to lend aid to the Red Army which was in the process of being smashed by the Germans. Then, after the armistice, the party ranks were swelled by returning Imperial soldiers, who thought they had won the war, and they had on the battlefield, but they soon discovered that they had been defeated on the homefront, and mainly by the communists and their allies. These men formed the SA, the Nazi paramilitary auxiliary and the SA became one of many Free Corps that suppressed with great violence the communist revolutions of 1919 and 1923. Later, Hitlers rise to Chancellor was an element of Reichswehr advance planning to prepare for defensive war against the Stalinists.
Slagle