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To: LTK007 who wrote (74809)3/24/2007 11:05:46 AM
From: Crimson Ghost  Respond to of 89467
 
Where are the Laptop Bombardiers Now?

By ALEXANDER COCKBURN

Pick almost any date on the calendar and it'll turn out that the US either started a war, ended a war, perpetrated a massacre or sent its UN Ambassador into the Security Council to declare to issue an ultimatum. It's like driving across the American West. "Historic marker, 1 mile", the sign says. A minute later you pull over and find yourself standing on dead Indians. "On this spot, in 1879 Major T and a troop of US cavalry "

It's three o'clock in the afternoon, Sunday March 18, one day short of the anniversary of US planes embarking on an aerial hunt of Pancho Villa in 1916;of the day the U.S. Senate rejected (for the second time) the Treaty of Versailles in 1920; of the end of the active phase of the US invasion of Afghanistan in 2002; of the 10 pm broadcast March 19, 2003, by President G.W. Bush announcing that aerial operations against Iraq had commenced.

This was the attack on Dora Farms outside Baghdad where some Iraqi whispered into his phone that Saddam Hussein was visiting his children. Down hurtled four 2000-pound bunker-busters and 40 cruise missiles. There were high fives in the White House situation room at news of a mangled Saddam being hauled from the rubble. It all turned out to be nonsense, like most military bulletins out of Iraq. The bunker busters all missed the compound. Saddam Hussein wasn't there. Uday and Qusay weren't there. Fifteen civilians died, including nine women and a child.



Here I was, a couple of days shy of four years later, in a used paperback store in a mall in Olympia, Washington, flicking through Tina Turner's side of the story on life with Ike. My cell phone rang. It was my brother Patrick, calling from Sulaimaniyah, three hours drive east through the mountains from the Kurdish capital of Arbil, in northern Iraq. He gave me a brisk précis of the piece he'd file the next day. Every road was lethally dangerous; every Iraqi he met had a ghastly tale to tell of murder, kidnappings, terror-stricken flights, searches for missing relatives. Life was measurably far, far worse for the vast majority of Iraqis than it had been before the 2003 onslaught. He'd talked that day to Kassim Naji Salaman, a truck driver replacing his murdered brother at the wheel of an oil tanker. Salaman was now the sole bread earner for 18 women and children because so many of his male relatives had been killed "I can't even visit the village where they live," he told Patrick. "Soldiers or militia or just men in masks might kill me. I don't even know how to send them money".

I've had many such phone calls from Patrick since March 2003, as he returned time after time to Iraq, either to Baghdad or to the north. Unlike the embedded reporters he's never felt moved to announce a "turning point", as when they blew away Uday and Qusay on July 22,2003. CNN's studio generals said on the news that night it was a big blow to the Iraqi resistance. Then Saddam was hauled out of a hole on December 15, 2003, just in time for Christmas. Maybe the death knell of the resistance, the studio generals exulted. Then came one "new dawn" for Iraq after another: the handback of Iraqi sovereignty in June 2004, the two elections and the new constitution in 2005. Now we have the "surge" into Baghdad, designed to whip the Shi'a back into line.

and well-being of a civilian population, enthusiatically supported by liberals in the US and Europe - Iraq's plight was already dire. When the war began, Baghdad had 20 hours of power a day. Now it's down to 2. Not thousands, not tens of thousands, but hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have died. Not hundreds of thousands but two million have fled the country, mostly to Syria and Jordan. It's the largest upheaval of a population in the Middle East since the Palestinian Naqba of 1948. Dawn after dawn rises over Iraq to reveal tortured corpses in the river beds, on the rubbish dumps, by the side of the road: bodies riddled with bullets, punctured by drills, whipped with wire cable, blown apart.

The U.N. says that in the two months before this last Christmas 5,000 Iraqi civilians were killed. The months since have probably been as bad. Saddam dragged his country into ruin. Then the US took it from ruin to the graveyard, plundering the corpse as it did so.

There's plenty of blame to go round. You'd think these days that the cheerleaders for war were limited to a platoon of neocons, as potent in historical influence as were supposedly the Knights Templar. But it was not so. The coalition of the enablers spread far beyond Cheney's team and the extended family of Norman Podhoretz. Atop mainstream corporate journalism perch the New York Times and the New Yorker, two prime disseminators of pro-invasion propaganda, written at the NYT by Judith Miller, Michael Gordon and, on the op ed page, by Thomas Friedman. The New Yorker put forth the voluminous lies of Jeffrey Goldberg and has remained impenitent till this day.

The war party virtually monopolized television. AM radio poured out a filthy torrent of war bluster. The laptop bombardiers such as Salman Rushdie were in full war paint. Among the progressives the liberal interventionists thumped their tin drums, often by writing pompous pieces attacking the antiwar "hard left". Mini-pundits Todd Gitlin and Michael Berube played this game eagerly. Berube lavished abuse on Noam Chomsky and other clear opponents of the war, mumbling about the therapeutic potential of great power interventionism, piously invoking the tradition of "left internationalism". Others, like Ian Williams, played supportive roles in instilling the idea that the upcoming war was negotiable, instead of an irreversible intent of the Bush administration, no matter what Saddam Hussein did. "The ball will be very much in Saddam Hussein's court," Williams wrote in November, 2002. "The question is whether he will cooperate and disarm, or dissimulate and bring about his own downfall at the hands of the U.S. military." (In fact Saddam had already "disarmed", as disclosed in Hussein Kamel's debriefings by the UNSCOM inspectors, the CIA and MI6 in the summer of 1995 when Kamel told them all, with corroboration from aides who had also defected, that on Saddam Hussein's orders his son-in-law had destroyed all of Iraq's WMDs years earlier, right after the Gulf War. This was not a secret. In February 2003 John Barry reported it in Newsweek.Anyone privy to the UNSCOM, CIA and MI6 debriefs knew it from 1995 on.)

As Iraq began to plunge ever more rapidly into the abyss not long after the March, 2003 attack, this crowd stubbornly mostly stayed the course with Bush. "Thumpingly blind to the war's virtues" was the head on a Paul Berman op ed piece in February, 2004.Christopher Hitchens lurched regularly onto Hardball to hurl abuse at critics of the war.

But today, amid Iraq's dreadful death throes, where are the parlor warriors? Have those Iraqi exiles reconsidered their illusions, that all it would take was a brisk invasion and a new constitution, to put Iraq to rights? Have any of them, from Makiya through Hitchens to Berman and Berube had dark nights, asking themselves just how much responsibility they have for the heaps of dead in Iraq, for a plundered nation, for the American soldiers who died or were crippled in Iraq at their urging ? Sometimes I dream of them, -- Friedman, Hitchens, Berman -- like characters in a Beckett play, buried up to their necks in a rubbish dump on the edge of Baghdad, reciting their columns to each other as the local women turn over the corpses to see if one of them is her husband or her son.

Post coldwar Liberal interventionism came of age with the onslaught on Serbia. Liberal support for the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq were the afterglows. Now that night has descended and illusions about the great crusade shattered for ever, let us tip our hats to those who opposed this war from the start the real left, the libertarians and those without illusions about the "civilizing mission" of the great powers.

Alexander Cockburn's new book, End Times: the Death of the Fourth Estate, is now available.



To: LTK007 who wrote (74809)3/24/2007 11:37:39 PM
From: Crimson Ghost  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
Hillary Clinton taking her cue from AIPAC trying to outwarmonger Bush re: Iran

Sen. Clinton Urges U.N. Sanctions Against Iran:

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) accused the Bush administration of playing down the threat of a nuclear Iran and called for swift action at the United Nations to impose sanctions on the Iranian government.
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Compared to anyone but Bush the Clintons are absolutely loathsome IMHO. The Iraq sanctions carried out ruthlessly by Bill killed hundreds of thousands and prepared the way for the Bush invasion. Like Bush they take their cue from the Zionist lobby -- albeit somewhat less extreme elements than the Bush neo-cons.



To: LTK007 who wrote (74809)3/26/2007 2:07:35 PM
From: Crimson Ghost  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Article from NY TIMES MAGAZINE of all places pointing out that the Democratic and GOP foreign policy elites agree on many more things than they disagree. And they mostly agree on the need to confront Iran.

What will it take to finally convince the peace movment that until the stranglehold of corporate and Zionist money over the political process is broken nothing will really change in Washington.

But Who’s Against the Next War?
By: DAVID RIEFF on: 26.03.2007 [06:18 ] (314 reads)

By DAVID RIEFF
Published: March 25, 2007
To hear the Democrats vying for the 2008 presidential nomination tell it, their foreign-policy views represent a sharp, even radical break with the course the Bush administration has pursued since 9/11. Senator Hillary Clinton has contrasted President Bush’s unilateralism with what she has called her own internationalism. Senator Barack Obama vowed to provide “the kind of leadership we need to re-establish our standing in the world and renew our allies’ respect.” Former Senator John Edwards has emphasized his differences with the administration’s domestic policy, but he has also promised to abandon a foreign policy “based on ideology” and to “return America to its place of moral leadership.”

Fearful Asymmetry Upon closer examination, however, the differences between these candidates and President Bush hardly seem as consequential as all that. To be sure, all three Democrats have denounced the administration’s policies in Iraq, with Obama and Edwards saying the war was a mistake and Clinton, though she has refused to apologize for her vote authorizing the war, increasingly coming around to the same position. But this has been a debate about the past rather than the future, and even the Bush administration, Vice President Cheney excepted, has largely climbed down from its rhetoric about what the United States can accomplish in Iraq. Clinton, Edwards and Obama have bitterly assailed one another’s Iraq positions, but it often seems as if they are splitting rather small differences. Senator Edwards has called for a complete withdrawal of our forces in 12 to 18 months; Senator Obama has called for “phased redeployment” of troops beginning no later than May 1; and Senator Clinton has called for a pullout to begin within 90 days but has been vague on how many American troops should leave Iraq and under what circumstances.

But it is their positions on Iran’s nuclear program, a subject that is almost certain to bedevil whoever becomes president in 2009, that most strongly suggest that the foreign-policy differences between Democratic and Republican policy elites have been vastly overblown.

Earlier this year, Vice President Cheney insisted that the administration had not “taken any options off the table” as Iran continued to defy United Nations calls for it to abandon its nuclear ambitions. The response from Democrats was not long in coming. Senator Clinton helped lead the charge, reminding the president that he did not have the authority to go to war with Iran on the basis of the Senate’s authorization of the use of force in Iraq in 2002. But what Senator Clinton did not say was at least as interesting as what she did say. And what she did not say was that she opposed the use of force in Iran. To the contrary, Senator Clinton used virtually the same formulation as Vice President Cheney. When dealing with Iran, she insisted, “no option can be taken off the table.”

Speaking to a meeting of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac), a lobbying group, on March 2, Senator Obama said pretty much the same: the Iranian regime was “a threat to all of us,” and “we should take no option, including military action, off the table.” John Edwards has been even more categorical. In a January speech in Israel, he said, “Under no circumstances can Iran be allowed to have nuclear weapons.” And he added, “We need to keep all options on the table.”

Members of the Bush administration can surely be excused for wondering why, when he uses such language, Cheney is accused of saber-rattling, whereas when the leading Democratic presidential candidates use the same language, there are virtually no complaints within the Beltway or on the major editorial pages, and there is widespread support from the Democratic Party’s foreign-policy elite. Indeed, the national-greatness conservatism advanced by neoconservative figures like William Kristol, and in large measure adopted by the Bush administration as it prepared for war in Iraq, finds its echo in a national-greatness liberalism among leading Democrats. National-greatness liberalism, the argument goes, was the foreign-policy signature of Democratic political predominance from Truman forward; any step away, toward more modest ambitions, is seen as McGovernite weakness destined for defeat.

In this context, and despite what many antiwar activists who voted Democratic in 2006 must have expected — they continue to challenge all the candidates, but especially Clinton, to sharpen their opposition to the Iraq war — the three front-running Democratic candidates seem to base their logic for a drawdown in Iraq not on the desirability of bringing troops home but of being able to deploy them elsewhere. They and their policy analogues (figures like Richard Holbrooke and Ivo Daalder) argue that Iraq is a distraction in the global fight against the jihadists and that leaving Iraq will free up forces to pursue that struggle more effectively elsewhere.

Iran seems, to Democratic leaders, to epitomize the need for continued American hegemony, though so does the wish to intervene more often on human rights grounds, above all in Darfur, or to protect allies like Israel and Taiwan. More broadly, however, the issue that is dividing the Democrats is that their leaders believe a muscular foreign policy is what the age of terrorism demands, while antiwar voters believe such a policy may only breed more disasters. The question is whether the party can seriously hope to regain the White House when it is so seriously divided against itself on what is, in the minds of many Americans, the central issue of our time.

David Rieff, a contributing writer, reports frequently on foreign policy for the magazine

nytimes.com