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To: Ilaine who wrote (15954)	3/25/2007 3:02:24 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218534

CB, It was males 30,000 years ago, females about 100,000 years ago [If I remember rightly] <We are all descended from people who originated in Africa maybe 50,000 years ago. Even if humankind in general was out of Africa longer ago than that, our own ancestors were not. And Jay, I am sure, doesn't think he should go back to Africa.> Females don't have genocidal war, which is why their common "out of Africa" ancestor was so much longer ago than for males. People think of a couple arriving out of Africa, but it doesn't work like that. <I doubt he could explain it himself. Fear of contamination from pink-faced, hairy, beer swilling soccer hooligans? Fear of loss of control? Fear of humiliation? T'is a puzzlement. > I had a read about Eugene Chen in cyberspace, where there is a surprising amount of information about all sorts of things. I see why TJ is how he is now. Apples don't fall all that far from trees. Mqurice's grandfather was in China, suppressing Boxer rebellion, running oil industry, going to France to suppress the Hun taking a swarm of Chinese workers to help [not in the actual fighting I believe]. Generally being a foreigner, trading and bringing foreign ways. TJ's grandfather was inciting the local yokels to refuse to speak English and to sort out the the foreign devils in general. Highly ironic that Eugene was fairly foreign too and was playing the local yokels for fools. Here we are two generations later, 100 years later. Mqurice wheeling and dealing mobile CDMA cyberspace in China, wanting them to open up trade. TJ is wheeling and dealing, mates at high levels, fixing and opposing foreign devil influence while lining own pockets. China is booting the foreign devil CDMA2000 [USA version] and W-CDMA [European version] and, ahem, "inventing", [giggle], their very own technology called TD-SCDMA for which, [what a surprise], they will determine they don't have to pay any royalties. That's how the place works - grab, nab, manipulate, lie and steal. The values one finds at street level are not Judeo/Christian/Libertarian - it's more dog eat dog and human eat dog. The values one finds at high level are not Freedom Fries values. Of course one can find those values all over the world, but there is more of some things in some places than others. History is underway, full steam ahead. Mqurice

To: Ilaine who wrote (15954)	3/26/2007 11:48:09 AM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 218534

explain myself? welcome back. now, what are you talking about? for that is the true puzzle hans think xiongnus are derived from hans? you are joking, surely, or read someone who was, of course. history, fyi, is everything, and on this point we differ, as indicated by you believing very fanciful happening, such as but not limited to ... - it is possible to win in afghanistan, reign in mesopotamia and rule in persia - gold is no good - exchange rate doesn't matter - debt is not a problem - greensputin is great - burnandkaput is better - houses that all go up in price is good, perhaps because property taxes follow, and debt is not a problem, or something along those lines, and - satellite ... oh never mind, i must behave properly As you did not respond to me to parameterize what we can and cannot discuss, and has invoked the use of my handle, i feel it is fair game to respond to anything you choose to say about me, to me, even if not directly addressing me, in whatever tact you pick to do, in exactly the same way as I always had, to respond with upmost kindness, and remind you that you are wrong, because your motivations are not pure, view constrained, analysis faulty, and so all is understandable in context. chugs, j P.S. feels like the thread i enjoy ... maurice back, cb aware ... wonderful

To: Ilaine who wrote (15954)	3/26/2007 4:40:17 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218534

I have noticed that DNA testing is a political divide. A LOT of people don't like the whole idea of DNA testing at all. <The Hans won't let Europeans test the DNA of the mummies of Urumchi, it's like a mania, "we were here first." The Brits say, "look at these red-headed mummies with round eyes, beaky noses, plaid clothes, they're part of our far-traveling clan." > Since DNA is absolutely nothing but a fact, and facts are ipso facto value-free, I don't see any reason for DNA not to be available for public viewing. Having established the facts, we can then argue about what we should do about those facts. A face is available for public viewing and that is nothing more than an inaccurate representation of DNA. The divide between those in favour of knowledge about DNA and those against is the old divide between those of a secretive, kleptocratic suffocatocracy nature in support of chimpoid tribal dominance hierarchy societies based on found wealth, [these days meaning the wealth created by other people], and modern humans of Libertarian thinking based on facts and reason. Incidentally, it's funny that TJ thinks he and China should confiscate Taiwan, whereas New Zealand is actually closer related than China [other than due to invasion in recent times by China - Japan has good claim on such a basis]. A DNA test of a local Maori [say my cousin's children] and Tobago Jack would show that TJ has little in common with Taiwanese, but my cousin's children are direct descendants. I think I am more closely related to my cousin's children than is TJ. Therefore, Casus Belli, ipso facto, ultra vires, he and Hu Jintao had better keep their cotton pickin' paws offa Taiwan. Go on TJ. Take the DNA challenge! When TJ says history is everything, he means just the right amount of history. Not too much of it! And not all the details of it. Just the parts which suit him. I prefer the future, by far, to history. History is a waste of time [more or less]. I was threatened with a beating with a stick by a Hungarian thug called "Mr Robi" if I continued to refuse to learn "History" and "Geography" as forced on innocent children at Onehunga High School. Mqurice