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To: neolib who wrote (228914)3/25/2007 7:56:39 PM
From: dougSF30Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Do you now think Intel has figured out circuit design to tolerate 65nm manufacturing while AMD cannot?

It does sorta look like that at the moment, doesn't it? :)



To: neolib who wrote (228914)3/25/2007 8:01:03 PM
From: Sarmad Y. HermizRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
>> (please don't come back with gate oxide thickness, I've already given you an eyeball estimate of 200K +/-40K atoms there), and there is no dependence on "variations due to random atomic states", and further that NOTHING depends on "the random variation in a single atom". If you can't understand that, stay away from commenting on device physics.

Then why do the articles mention this thickness as though it was something that illustrates their point ? If as you say, it does not ?

>> In the original post quoted above you were talking about AMD's manufacturing procedure, not circuit design. Do you now think Intel has figured out circuit design to tolerate 65nm manufacturing while AMD cannot?

Not that AMD CANNOT. But that AMD DID NOT in the Brisbane shrink, since that original design was from a larger node.

>> and further that NOTHING depends on "the random variation in a single atom". If you can't understand that, stay away from commenting on device physics.

I would take your advice if it wasn't that at least equally learned people claim that it does make a difference. By the way, I did not write those papers. I am sure they were written by people who took many graduate courses just as you did.