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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (330372)3/26/2007 5:59:56 PM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574880
 
Also your "global warming zealot" language is offensive. That sounds like Exxon smear spin.

Global warming is recognized as a crisis by virtually every government and climate scientist on earth. If you go to Glacier Bay or scuba dive you can plainly see the dramatic effects. And if you fly over our country's heartland on a clear day you can see a shocking layer of pollution a thousand miles long, and that's not even an urban area. Our burning of fossil fuels has gone on long enough. As a people we need to evolve, and the GOP needs to stop taking so much bribe money from the polluters that this becomes a liberal or conservative issue. In fact many top Republicans completely agree with me on this. The problem is we have two oilmen in the White House who are bought and paid for.

Also, to be fair, Clinton didn't do enough when he was in power.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (330372)3/26/2007 8:47:09 PM
From: Road Walker  Respond to of 1574880
 
re: Of course, the bet is forward-looking. You're betting that 10 years down the road, fossil fuels will become so expensive (either because of lack of supply or because of liberal taxes by some global-warming zealot) that the break-even point gets pulled in.

OK, we're not thinking at all alike.

What I see as the best case scenario:

1. A shift begins to electric power for transportation, which puts extra pressure on electrical production.
2. At the same time, we begin building more nuke power plants (already in the works) and the use of solar for local (meaning building) power starts to take hold. This feeds power back into the grid during low consumption hours.

Unlike Al (sorry not everyone has the same vision; I know it's inconvienent) I don't envision massive arrays of solar panels. Wind yes; solar no.

re: You're betting that 10 years down the road, fossil fuels will become so expensive (either because of lack of supply or because of liberal taxes by some global-warming zealot) that the break-even point gets pulled in.

The lack of supply could be peak oil or it could be geopolitical. But it's a huge and obvious threat. Oil trades at the supply/demand margin, currently at a tipping point. A big disruption would lead to doubling or tripling of prices and a recession/depression. A very serious disruption would lead to rationing... and a nightmare for the economy and social order.

This may or may not play out in my lifetime, but it will certainly play out in yours. I guarantee it.