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To: JBTFD who wrote (56569)	3/27/2007 5:52:37 PM
From: Jim S	Respond to of 90947

That's what I like to see. Calm, rational disagreement. I've yet to see any group of you "smart" and "intelligent" lefties condemn such behavior publicly and as a group. Instead, we get tiny natterers who avoid actual apologies or condemnations, individually voicing their mild disapproval. And quietly, so as to not deserve the reproaches of the rest of their hate-filled group. Shout your disapproval from the rooftops if you disapprove of such behavior.

To: JBTFD who wrote (56569)	3/28/2007 8:52:21 AM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

They are typical...if not in action, in thought.

To: JBTFD who wrote (56569)	3/31/2007 3:58:32 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

"The only reason Bush wants to stay there is because his buddies are getting rich and feasting off the blood of our children." Cindy Sheehan - AKA "Mother Sheehan" by a large portion of the anti-war movement. Message 21600670

To: JBTFD who wrote (56569)	3/31/2007 4:10:32 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

<< "They are the lunatic fringe. Anyone who buys your ignorant frame that they are typical antiwar protestors is ignorant and stupid." >> “[my son] was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full- well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by George [W.] Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11." -- Cindy Sheehan who has "absolute moral authority" per the MSM Message 21611792

To: JBTFD who wrote (56569)	3/31/2007 4:21:36 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

<< "They are the lunatic fringe. Anyone who buys your ignorant frame that they are typical antiwar protestors is ignorant and stupid." >> -- "Mother" Sheehan who has "absolute moral authority" per the MSM "Thank God for the Internet, or we wouldn't know anything, and we would already be a fascist state," Sheehan said. "Our government is run by one party, every level, and the mainstream media is a propaganda tool for the government." "The biggest terrorist in the world is George W. Bush," Sheehan began. After calling for Bush's impeachment and making a demand that Bush send his "two little party- animal girls" to war... It seems churlish to point out that the mainstream media -- you know, the papers and networks that relentlessly hype Iraqi progress and downplay casualties -- have helped make her a celebrity. It would be obvious to note that we went to war to depose an actual fascist state. Message 21615166

To: JBTFD who wrote (56569)	3/31/2007 4:36:10 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

<< "They are the lunatic fringe. Anyone who buys your ignorant frame that they are typical antiwar protestors is ignorant and stupid." >> From the lips of Cindy Sheehan RE: President Bush: ‘“I now know he’s sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis,” Cindy said after their meeting. “I know he’s sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he’s a man of faith....” ‘For the first time in 11 weeks, they felt whole again. “That was the gift the President gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together,” Cindy said.’ .... Instead of gratitude for ‘the gift the President gave us’, she now says her son was ‘murdered by the Bush crime family’. Also from the lips of Cindy Sheehan: ‘We have to impeach George Bush down to the person who picks up the dog shit in Washington! Let George Bush send his two little party animals to die in Iraq.’ Also: ‘You tell me the truth. You tell me that my son died for oil. You tell me that my son died to make your friends rich. You tell me my son died to spread the cancer of Pax Americana.... You get America out of Iraq, you get Israel out of Palestine.’ And: ‘America has been killing people on this continent since it was started. This country is not worth dying for.' http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21618536

To: JBTFD who wrote (56569)	3/31/2007 4:49:08 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

<< "They are the lunatic fringe. Anyone who buys your ignorant frame that they are typical antiwar protestors is ignorant and stupid." >> You might not know it from [Cindy Sheehan's] televised interviews (where she seems well coached by the expensive media mavens retained by MoveOn.org), but the Internet is alive with her unscripted sayings, and they make quite a collection. To anyone's knowledge, none of the Jersey Girls or members of Peaceful Tomorrows has appeared on a program with Lynne Stewart, the convicted lawyer and friend to Islamic terrorists, and proclaimed her a personal heroine. None has ever said anything like this to a public gathering: "We have no constitution. We're the only country with no checks and balances. We want our country back if we have to impeach George Bush down to the person who picks up the dog s--in Washington. Let George Bush send his two little party animals to die in Iraq." Few Everymoms have ever told newsmen: "America has been killing people on this continent since it was started. This country is not worth dying for."... SINCE THE FLORIDA RECOUNT, the left has been driven mad by their loathing for George W. Bush, which subsequent elections in 2002 and 2004 only intensified. And since 9/11, they have also been turned into grief-seeking missiles, and slipped into a confusion and squalor that boggle the mind. "The moral authority of parents who bury children killed in Iraq is absolute," declares the New York Times's Maureen Dowd. What she means is the moral authority of those she finds useful. Does she accept the moral authority of Linda Ryan, who finds Sheehan disgraceful? Does she bow to the moral authority of the thousands of parents of the dead and the wounded who support the war and the president, and find her snideness disgusting? Can she begin to guess at what the phrase even means? .... Message 21622878

To: JBTFD who wrote (56569)	3/31/2007 4:52:25 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 90947

At Cindy Sheehan's side since Aug. 6 when she began her antiwar protest outside President Bush's Texas ranch have been three groups that openly support the Iraqi insurgency against U.S. troops: Code Pink-Women For Peace, United for Peace & Justice, and Veterans For Peace. Those organizations were represented at a mock "war crimes" trial in Istanbul that on June 27 produced a joint declaration backing the insurgency. Message 21622893

To: JBTFD who wrote (56569)	3/31/2007 5:06:37 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

.... in its apparent zeal to portray Sheehan as the Rosa Parks of the antiwar movement, the Los Angeles Times has omitted facts and perspectives that might undercut her message or explain the president's reluctance to meet with her again.... .... In the 11 articles and columns about Sheehan that The Times had run on its news pages as of Friday, there is no hint of her previous praise for the president.... [Cindy Sheehan's] descriptions of the president in a Dallas speech reported by leftist newsletter Counterpunch as a "lying bastard," a "maniac" and the leader of a "destructive neocon cabal." In an article for CommonDreams.org, she called that supposed cabal "the "biggest terrorist outfit in the world." She also has turned her son's death into a tax protest, refusing to pay her income taxes for 2004, the year her son died, reportedly saying in the Dallas speech: "You killed my son, George Bush, and I don't owe you a penny." .... you would never know about these statements from reading The Times' news pages. Nor would you learn that Casey Sheehan reenlisted after the war started. And only The Times' April 2004 obituary for the 24-year-old Army specialist noted that he bravely volunteered for the rescue mission in which he was killed by terrorists.... .... it has not mentioned that other members of Sheehan's family have clearly distanced themselves from her protest... .... Rational people can disagree whether the war in Iraq is justified. But a newspaper's job is to report all relevant facts and present different perspectives, not just those that suit one particular viewpoint. By that measure, The Times has woefully failed its readers with its one-sided coverage of the Cindy Sheehan story. Message 21622959

To: JBTFD who wrote (56569)	3/31/2007 5:49:59 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

<< "They are the lunatic fringe. Anyone who buys your ignorant frame that they are typical antiwar protestors is ignorant and stupid." >> Anti-war nutjobs supporting "Mother" Sheehan basetree.com Code Pink Repeal the Patriot Act

To: JBTFD who wrote (56569)	3/31/2007 6:06:10 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Cindy Sheehan claims the media are "a propaganda tool for the government." A New York Post editorial (Aug. 16) argued that Sheehan's statement was self-evidently false, given the overwhelming and almost exclusively positive media attention paid to her in the last several weeks. But in a broader sense, Sheehan has a point: Almost all the news stories and columns in Denver dailies, like the vast majority of the rest of the mainstream media, have failed to inform their readers about what Sheehan really thinks. Message 21643732

To: JBTFD who wrote (56569)	3/31/2007 6:16:28 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Gee Mark, you counter arguments sound just like "Mother" Sheehan's. Sheehan: Crawford Counter-Protest Like “Third Reich” By Mark on POTUS Decision '08 Okay, when Cindy Sheehan camps out and blathers on and on and calls our President a murdering, lying bastard, that’s protected protest (and who’s trying to stop you, Cindy?), but when the other side speaks up, that’s Hitler-like. Here’s Sheehan today: <<< A photographer friend of mine went down to Crawford to the Pro-War, Anti-Peace rally today. There were about 1500 people there he said. He also said that it was the most “third reich” spectacle that he had ever seen in America. >>> Here’s more from the brilliant symbol of the anti-war Left: <<< I am really sad that there are still people in America who think that someone exercising her freedom of speech is anti-American. People who say we DON’T have the right to dissent are un-patriotic and un-American. My friend said that the rally was really the scariest thing he had ever seen. >>> Oh, yeah, your right to dissent is being stifled; umm-hmm. What’s really sad is when someone calls the President of the United States the biggest terrorist in the world, likens supporters of the war to Nazis, and implies the U.S. is a pawn of Israel, and then wonders why she is considered anti-American. More than sad, really; it’s disgusting… UPDATE 11:42 a.m.: This fellow makes the Nazi analogy nice and clear…these shenanigans have not gone unnoticed by our good friend Ryan James, who has more on the well-funded, made-for-TV, ‘grassroots’ Camp Cindy… documentaryblog.com ryanjamestv.blogspot.com UPDATE 2 11:54 a.m.: Don’t miss this firsthand, eyewitness account of Saturday’s pro-Bush counter-protest by fellow Austinite Melissa Rutledge, who was kind enough to share her impressions in the comments… decision08.net. decision08.net dailykos.com

To: JBTFD who wrote (56569)	3/31/2007 6:18:45 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Cindy Sheehan’s Radical Strategist ....Have you heard of Lisa Fithian? A veteran of the Seattle WTO riots and scores of other protests, she’s been with Sheehan from the start..... Message 21648381

To: JBTFD who wrote (56569)	3/31/2007 6:25:41 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 90947

Sheehan: Gold Star moms are "Brainwashed murder and mayhem moms" <snip> Cindy Sheehan maintains a 'dairy' at the Daily Kos (I know, that comes as a stunning surprise I'm sure). Under the label "everyone is brainwashed except me", comes Sheehan's latest: .... I am starting to lose a little compassion for them. I know they have been as brainwashed as the rest of America, but they know the pain and heartache and they should not wish it on another. However, I still feel their pain so acutely and pray for these "continue the murder and mayhem" moms to see the light.... http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21648560