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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (225326)3/27/2007 9:18:42 PM
From: neolib  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Israel did control them militarily before 1993; since then, the PA has controlled Area A, which includes all the populated towns. So your info is out of date.

No, Israel still controls anything they want to, or rather they can control macro, but not micro issues.

What is Israel but a Yahudistan? Have you seen how tiny the country is? It is less than 0.01% of the Mideast!

A white enclave in South Africa would have been small compared to all of Africa as well. What you need to do is compare Jewish land to Pal land within Palestine.

You might note that prior to Partition, the total amount of land purchased by Jewish interests was not large (IIRC something on the order of 10%) whereas Partition and a succession of wars has done MUCH better at acquiring land. Even the original land purchases suffered a glaring defect in that they were bought from foreign owners. If the whites of Rhodesia had sold their large land holdings to Brazilians in the 1940's, I doubt the blacks of the 1970's and onward would have considered that any obstacle to their own claims of ownership.

Any final configuration depends on the Arabs accepting that the Israelis are not going away. So far, history teaches that attempts at compromise teach the Arabs only the opposite.

I agree that Arabs accepting that Jews will remain in Palestine is one necessary condition, but it is not what we would call sufficient conditions. What are sufficient conditions for peace?



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (225326)3/27/2007 9:55:48 PM
From: bentway  Respond to of 281500
 
"Israel did control them militarily before 1993; since then, the PA has controlled Area A, which includes all the populated towns. So your info is out of date."

Israel goes in whenever they feel the need, and that Pals aren't allowed to HAVE a military. So, Israel controls them militarily.