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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (225633)	3/30/2007 5:37:24 AM
From: SARMAN	Respond to of 281500

Yep Nazine, you were at the negotiating table. How brainless are you? Do you really think that anyone believes the crap that you spew. Israel never ever negotiated with good faith, never or had the intention of keeping their word. Fortunately for the Israelis, that the Palestinians figures the Israeli plan and break the deal before exposing Israel. Today, there is an offer on the table, if Israel really wants peace, it can use it as a framework. However, I will not hold my breath, Israel was never for peace, and its citizen will never live in peace.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (225633)	3/30/2007 6:02:09 AM
From: Noel de Leon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Carter, in Palestine Peace Not Apartheid, on page 152 writes; " A new round of talks was held at Taba in January 2001, during the last few days of the Clinton presidency, between President Arafat and the Israeli foreign minister, and it was later claimed that the Palestinians rejected a "generous" offer put forward by Prime minister Barack with Israel keeping only 5 percent of the West Bank. The fact is that no such offers were ever made. Barack later said, "It was plain to me that there was no chance of reaching a settlement at Taba. Therefore I said there would be no negotiations and there would be no delegation and there would be no official discussions and no documentation. Nor would Americans be present in the room. The only thing that took place at Taba were non-binding contacts between senior Israelis and senior Palestinians"" Page 148 shows 2 maps, a Palestinian and an Israeli interpretation of Clinton's 2000 proposal. Your 95% figure is deceptive. It does not include the "life arteries"(500-4000 meters wide), 400 meter zone around each settlement, blocked roads, numerous military control points, and total lack of direct access to Jordan due to Israeli control of the Jordan river valley. See Page 151.