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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (225793)	3/31/2007 11:51:19 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Clearly you wish to become your enemy. I'm not all that interested in that. I don't see the point in fighting another civilization, if all you are going to do is drop to their level and become them. If we are really interested in "transformation" of the ME (or anywhere else), then we had better set the kind of example we want other people to follow. It's not as if by lowering ourselves we win anything. No one is going to come to the US and conquer us and force you to bow to Mecca because we in the US (or those in the UK) follow the Geneva Conventions. My expectation of international law is that the loser in a conflict will be the one most often to feel the sting of international law, in terms of punishments. While the US has violated the GC (imo) I doubt we will be punished. I think the laws exist as an ideal, and the country that wants to imagine it wears the white hat, had better try to follow the ideal. If you have given up the baggage of altruism, and quit imagining America as better than many other places in the world, then your position makes sense. I'm not ready to throw in the towel on America's leadership for a better world. I grant you that Mr. Bush has done that image some serious damage, but I'm not ready to see us become a more flagrant GC violator, just to keep up with folks like the Iranians.