To: Slagle who wrote (16426 ) 4/3/2007 8:59:06 PM From: Maurice Winn Respond to of 218055 Slag, that's an interesting history. On this, I agree with your idea, but disagree with your proof: <It is that belief that places an inordinate amount of emphasis on the human acquisitive impulse. If that impulse was paramount, the advertizing, marketing and propaganda business wouldn't be so huge. > Humans seem to be half-way between sun-basking reptiles and hyperactive otters. But we have a lot of acquisitiveness too aka materialism. To bask, play, or enjoy material objects? Decisions, decisions. The single variable approach to most things is almost always so simplistic as to be false. People want "the" reason for things that happen and are easily bewildered, so that's understandable. Multivariate analysis is tricky on a good day. In New Zealand, Libertarianz such as Lindsay Perigo have been far lefties - he being in his youth a communist fan club member, as was fashionable back in the day when being Gung Ho, sharing, caring and common ownership seemed like a simple, efficient way to get things done. The Libertarianz are the opposite of acquisitive in New Zealand. They almost pride themselves on their lack of attachment to the concrete and the material. It's a Kiwi thing. Americans are acquisitive, so it's not surprising that Libertarians there incorporate materialism into their ideology as a dominant motivator [assuming that you are right and they do]. Up to a certain state, one has to be materialistic. Hunger encroaches if one doesn't acquire money and food stuffs. It's notable that Warren Buffett and $ill Gates, who are world champion wealth achievers, are not motivated simply by materialism. Both are getting rid of their wealth by doing good stuff to benefit everyone. Getting rid of it is part of their brief, not just accumulating it. A theory on motivation, economics, and libertarianism has to include world champions like them. Mqurice