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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: longnshort who wrote (17050)4/5/2007 4:04:37 AM
From: maceng2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
(OT) Re Falklands war.

We were not invading a sovereign Nation. It had already been invaded by Argentinia. The people there were British. If the you read "The Moon is Down" you will see the difference.

Since you mention it though...

I'm told that if we had given every man, women, and child, and EVERY SHEEP £1,000,000 each to relocate off the Falklands we would have saved a lot of money instead of fighting that war. Saved lives too. It would be interesting to check what the UK tax payers would have done with that fact at the voting booths. I remember clearly what I thought at the time. I was well paid in 1982 and paying far too much tax.

Our forces performed well and casualties were light. That is always a relief in any war. The Argentinian losses were bad, we used phosphorous rounds on recruits left to defend positions after the senior officers has deserted them. That's war for you I suppose.

OTOH the Spanish and Argentinian nations were beginning to talk as if we were a nation unable to defend our interests, that did change.

It was an opportunity to test weapons and defense systems. The war was won by the UK for many reasons, one of the primary reasons was the bombs supplied to the Argentinians failed to go off when dropped from low altitude. We now know it is also silly to build war ships from Aluminum. It burns. Lots of people knew that anyway, it's amazing how power and commercial interests can make really stupid decisions for the self interest of a few individuals. I can provide you with an endless supply of that data if you like, going back to pre WW1.

I never thought the Falklands as part of the British Isles. Iceland perhaps, the Falklands definitely no. I would have thought a diplomatic solution would have been concluded long before 1980.

Overall, it was a brainless venture from start to finish.



To: longnshort who wrote (17050)4/5/2007 9:51:52 PM
From: Orcastraiter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
Gov. Jesse Ventura – 38th Governor of Minnesota 1999 - 2003. Member, U.S. Navy Underwater Demolition Team 12 (precursor to SEAL) 1969 - 1975. U.S. Navy Reserves, SEAL Team 1.

Former professional wrestler and actor. The Running Man (1987), Predator (1987). Author or co-author of I Ain't Got Time to Bleed: Reworking the Body Politic from the Bottom up (2000), Quotations of Chairman Jesse (2000), Do I Stand Alone?: Going to the Mat Against Political Pawns and Media Jackals (2001), Jesse Ventura Tells It Like It Is: America's Most Outspoken Governor Speaks Out About Government (2002), The New Prohibition: Voices of Dissent Challenge the Drug War (2004).
Video interview The Alex Jones Show 9/26/06: "The thing I question on 9/11 was simply the fact; where were our planes? When all this was going on and planes were being hijacked an hour apart and there were four of them They cover about a six-hour space. At no time, to my knowledge, did we have any fighter planes up in the air. Why? ...

In light of the fact that there was a cover-up that got us into the Viet Nam war and there was, in my opinion, a cover-up of John Kennedy's assassination, I would just say that I don't believe it's beyond reason to not at least consider that the government certainly would do things like that." infowars.com

Interview Black Op Radio 8/20/04: "At first, again, I wanted to believe 9/11, you know. But the problem I have with 9/11 is just a real simple one. I'm trying to figure out -- and of course they're now attempting to answer it somewhat -- how we could have failed so miserably in not having air defense. ...

And the problem I have with 9/11 is that. Where the heck was our defense? Who was sleeping at the wheel? While all of these planes... I mean, I've been to air traffic control when I was Governor, and you've got a dozen people there looking at these dials, watching every plane in their sector. They know where it's going and they know what direction it's supposed to be going

Now, how is it that these planes were able to be hijacked at half hour intervals, turned directly opposite the way they're supposed to be going and no bells went off, no emergency sirens went off, no fighter jets were scrambled? Just what the hell happened in that area of time?! And that's the part that troubles me about 9/11. ...

I mean here's the Pentagon, the head of our military. How was this plane able to circle the city of Baltimore [sic] at least once, picking out a target, and then drive into it, and we didn't have -- nothing up in the air? There wasn't one scrambled fighter jet up there to defend in any way, shape, or form?" libertypost.org

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