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To: KLP who wrote (201648)	4/7/2007 5:00:28 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793625

K, Climate change is not just a "SUN caused event". Climate is a function of an infinite array of variables which interact to form the outcome. Anthropogenic CO2 is definitely part of that process. We have resurrected a LOT of carbon from coal and hydrocarbon deposits, being responsible for something like 15% of atmospheric CO2 meaning, if we hadn't done such a good job, CO2 levels would be lower by that amount. My argument for 20 years now has been that all we have done is hold off the onset of the ice age [if we are lucky]. So far, my theory is more right than the greenhouse effect doomsters because the tiny temperature increase fits my theory better than their's. The main reason I think we aren't going to make a serious change to the climate, or even a significant one, is that all we are doing is putting carbon back into the ecosphere where it was before being stripped from the atmosphere and buried in hydrocarbon and coal graves for umpty million years. We are recovering an absolutely minuscule part of the total carbon. Don't forget limestone. That contains what was living carbon and there are stupendously vast amounts of it. I doubt that sun variation or Earth orbit variation is the dominant effect in climate change over the eons. The single main effect is the billion year long cooling of Earth. It was once a swirling mass of very hot stardust and it has been separating into its constituents, chemically reacting, crystallizing and cooling ever since. It is a one-way trip to a frozen ball with life a suicidal process in a tragedy of the commons competition. Each living thing has to grab what carbon it can, even though the act of living and maximizing survival prospects exacerbates the cooling process. Mqurice