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To: KLP who wrote (201768)4/7/2007 9:12:31 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793656
 
People Power is the ultimate power: <what if everyone on earth decides THEY know best. Or better yet, what if ALL the disagreeing scientists think THEY know best, without bothering to work with others to think out a wise path to go forward....>

Even the most totalitarian rulers only rule with the consent of the governed if they can keep sufficient on side and keep things going good enough to stay boss.

If all the scientists and politicians decide that CO2 production is a problem but the public disagrees, then guess who wins. Similarly, if the politicians and scientists think it isn't a problem, the public can decide it is and cease producing CO2.

But it won't be so extreme. Those who don't like CO2 production are already cutting their production. Those who don't care won't increase their production because some don't care. Oil and gas is a small part of the economy, so it's not that if somebody doesn't use it, somebody else will. It's not just a tragedy of the commons issue.

It's expensive enough that price limits demand. Already there is a huge move towards more efficiency and alternatives and that process has been underway for 100 years because fuel inefficiency has nothing going for it. Entropy is bad. Waste costs people money.

Politicians and people power decide what to do for the most part.

I don't know where temperatures are taken. I guess in a LOT of places; so many that there's enough data to figure out the global heat balance, more or less.

Mqurice



To: KLP who wrote (201768)4/9/2007 10:47:16 AM
From: Alastair McIntosh  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793656
 
I guess you're not familiar with the ARGO project. 3000 sensors all over the global oceans recording temperature and salinity to a depth of 2000 meters and transmitting the results by satellite link. Plenty of data to get a good handle on quantity and distribution oceanic heat content.

argo.net

..there are no temperatures taken of any consequence over this 70% of land?