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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (226454)	4/8/2007 3:36:46 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

In 1975, Newsweek's title article was asking if we were about to enter a new ice age. Scare sells. We did quite a bit of fairly cheap mitigation against that, and guess what, the mitigation was pretty effective. What I don't understand with you anti-science types is why you think the economics of mitigating global warming are an impossible barrier. The hype problem is not on the science side, it sits quite nicely in the economists laps. These are the same clowns who have always told us that rising energy costs will cripple our economy. Hello, what did the Iraq war just teach us? Oops, all that economic hype was just crap. All we need to do to solve global warming is let oil go to $100/bl and we will shortly solve the problem. That plus wack any nutcase on the head who is stupid enough to think that $100/bbl oil = dig more coal.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (226454)	4/8/2007 3:36:57 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 281500

"Scare sells." Like a "nucular" Iraq? A "nucular" Iran?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (226454)	4/8/2007 4:35:24 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I thought I had put that myth to rest. Apparently not for The Queen of De Nile. The global cooling myth Every now and again, the myth that "we shouldn't believe global warming predictions now, because in the 1970's they were predicting an ice age and/or cooling" surfaces. Recently, George Will mentioned it in his column (see Will-full ignorance) and the egregious Crichton manages to say "in the 1970's all the climate scientists believed an ice age was coming" (see Michael Crichton’s State of Confusion ). You can find it in various other places too [here, mildly here, etc]. But its not an argument used by respectable and knowledgeable skeptics, because it crumbles under analysis. That doesn't stop it repeatedly cropping up in newsgroups though. I should clarify that I'm talking about predictions in the scientific press. There were some regrettable things published in the popular press (e.g. Newsweek; though National Geographic did better). But we're only responsible for the scientific press. If you want to look at an analysis of various papers that mention the subject, then try wmconnolley.org.uk. more realclimate.org