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To: Ichy Smith who wrote (11692)4/8/2007 4:50:01 PM
From: seventh_son  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 37549
 
Ichy, you realize that the people of the entire Middle East are generally classified as semitic peoples, not just Jews. When one realizes that, antisemitism gets a whole new meaning -- not just some sort of overused and misused word intended to stigmatize and shut down debate. Are you an antisemite? Do you think that people in Iraq, Lebanon, or Iran have rights like anyone else not to be discriminated against or aggressed against?

I would agree with any premise that religious radicals need to be treated with caution. I don't want religious radicals of any stripe in Canada, for example, if that radicalism entails a concept of racial superiority or conflict with our society's norms. In challenging radicalism, however, I think that it is necessary to provide evidence of moral superiority rather than inferiority, and to believe in the rights of individuals rather than taking a narrow-minded negative view toward whole nations, religions or groups. Then if the "radicals" can be drawn into open discourse with people who believe in rules of fair trade, free speech, and respect for the rights of other peoples, the radicals have no rational basis to be radical.

The problem is, the US is doing quite the opposite of opposing radicalism. It is feeding it. Iraq is the perfect example. An unjustified war has just bred new enemies, radicals and terrorists for the US to deal with. Rather than dialogue and trade with Iran, which would lead to the overthrow of religious elements faster than any other strategy, the US bullies the country and tries to impoverish it, providing support for any who oppose it, such as the religious groups who provide hope for the poor in the absence of hope in a material world.

In the end, I think that the biggest threat to us all are the radicals within and not the radicals on the outside. I remember when I lived in North York in 2003 and the local community newspaper acted as nothing less than a war-monging progaganda rag for the arrogant religious radicals who ran it. Thank goodness Canadians did not listen to that crap and never got involved in the injustices that occurred in Iraq. Those idiots would have just succeeded in stirring up opposing radicals against the average Canadian who believes in rights and fairness for all. Let's hope that we keep out of any other unjustified aggressions in the Middle East. Then maybe we can concentrate on issues of real impact to Canada -- such as immigration, skills training, economic competetiveness, fixing health-care, fair taxation, combating fraud, and other domestic policies of importance to us all.



To: Ichy Smith who wrote (11692)4/9/2007 3:28:53 AM
From: Threshold  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 37549
 
"Yes, but Islam has been polluted by it's collusion with the nazis. Antisemitism, brought into islam by the scumbag Grand Mufti of jerusalem has flourished in Islam, and until we look at Islam and realise that although they were harsh to their Jewish citizens, Murdering them did not become a hobby until the Grand Mufti raised battalions of Islamic soldiers for his friend Adolf Hitler."

>>Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source
Sem·ite /'s?ma?t or, especially Brit., 'sima?t/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sem-ahyt or, especially Brit., see-mahyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a member of any of various ancient and modern peoples originating in southwestern Asia, including the Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs.<<

So let me get this straight, Islam hates Akkadians, Canaaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews and Arabs?

So why are so many Arabs worshipping the Muslim faith? Seems to me that the term Antisemitism has been hijacked, or perhaps refined for convenience.

Perhaps us Christian should just let them sort it all out for themselves no? I for one will not be tricked or manipulated into supporting either side in this endless war.

"They hate us for our freedom" is one of those weak attempts to draw us all into such a trap. Like the commercial says "Hand in my pocket".