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To: DMaA who wrote (201868)	4/8/2007 7:51:20 PM
From: Ichy Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793677

I have a problem in that I don't think anyone should have to do without necessary healthcare. Do I believe that men should make any decisions about abortion, no I do not. I think that if a man and a woman together conceive a child, then they both should pay for it's care. But I think we have a far bigger problem than abortions. There is a strange need within North American Society to run other peoples lives. In this case you have a belief about abortions, not of your child, or your grandchildrens child, or of anyone you know, and you sit and pontificate on what a stranger should do about a child they don't want, and cannot afford to raise. You don't want to raise the welfare or the benefits to a level that would give the child a real chance at life, you just want to fuck with the lives of perfect strangers, for your own beliefs.......... I believe that women should decide, and until we have no child homeless in North America, men should mind their own business. When every child has a warm comfortable and well fed existance, perhaps men can have some input, but until every child is well cared for and every child has a good and stable home, men should mind their own business. None of the men presently living will have anything to say in their lifetimes under that ideal.

To: DMaA who wrote (201868)	4/8/2007 8:57:03 PM
From: Jaknik2	Respond to of 793677

Hubba hubba! I see absolutely no provision in the U.S. Constitution which would allow the government to spend taxpayer's money to fund abortions or enter into the baby killing business. Presently, this is the law. Even though I'm not particularly a supporter of abortion I will not enter that particular debate. But if whomever choses that route, it should be on their dime, not the taxpayers. As for the health insurance issue, I still don't get why folks these days think of it as a God given right. Why is health care insurance any different than saving for your retirement? Again, there is no language in the U.S. Constitution mandating expenditure of public funds for health care insurance. I guess no one wants to assume personal responsibility for anything these days. It appears Self Reliance is now just an antiquated essay in some largely unread collection of books. Jak