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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (226524)	4/9/2007 5:41:35 AM
From: Noel de Leon	Respond to of 281500

One more red herring doesn't negate another. You have produced no source for your statement "they are clearly quite intent on using the Mehdi Army to perform a new conquest of Iraq." Perhaps your source is that great generator of red herrings the neo-con "think" tanks, or right wing Israeli propaganda organs or maybe it's that center of truth, Fox "News".

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (226524)	4/9/2007 6:08:14 AM
From: Noel de Leon	Respond to of 281500

Your statement that Egypt had 900,000 troops amassed to attack Israel is not supported. "The combatant armies On the eve of the war, Egypt massed around 100,000 of its 160,000 troops in the Sinai, including all of its seven divisions (four infantry, two armored and one mechanized), as well as four independent infantry and four independent armored brigades. No less than a third of them were veterans of Egypt intervention into the Yemen Civil War and another third were reservists. These forces had 950 tanks, 1,100 APCs and more than 1,000 artillery pieces.[61] At the same time some Egyptian troops (15,000 - 20,000) were still fighting in Yemen[62][63][64][65]. Nasser's ambivalence about his goals and objectives was reflected in his orders to the military. The general staff changed the operational plan four times in May 1967, each change requiring the redeployment of troops, with the inevitable toll on both men and vehicles. Towards the end of May, Nasser finally forbade the general staff from proceeding with the Qahir ("Victory") plan, which called for a light infantry screen in the forward fortifications with the bulk of the forces held back to conduct a massive counterattack against the main Israeli advance when identified, and ordered a forward defense of the Sinai.[66] In the meantime, he continued to take actions intended to increase the level of mobilisation of Egypt, Syria and Jordan, in order to bring pressure on Israel. Jordan's army had a total strength of 55,000,[67] but it too was embroiled in the fighting in Yemen. Syria's army had 75,000 troops.[68] The Israeli army had a total strength, including reservists, of 264,000, though this number could not be sustained, as the reservists were vital to civilian life.[69] James Reston, writing in the New York Times on 23 May 1967 noted, "In discipline, training, morale, equipment and general competence his [Nasser's] army and the other Arab forces, without the direct assistance of the Soviet Union, are no match for the Israelis... Even with 50,000 troops and the best of his generals and air force in Yemen, he has not been able to work his way in that small and primitive country, and even his effort to help the Congo rebels was a flop."[70]" from wikipedia, 6 day war.