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To: Road Walker who wrote (332275)4/9/2007 9:48:37 AM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572953
 
"Before 9/11, however, the right-wing noise machine mainly relied on little lies. And now it has returned to its roots."

I don't think they ever left. But, devoid of the Big Lies, it is all they have left now.



To: Road Walker who wrote (332275)4/9/2007 11:23:59 AM
From: Alighieri  Respond to of 1572953
 
" LEAVE IT TO Mitt Romney to shoot himself in the foot with a gun he doesn't own. "

Funny one...one of the right's psychotic 3Gs in full display.

Al
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Guns, trust, and Romney

By Joan Vennochi, Globe Columnist | April 8, 2007

LEAVE IT TO Mitt Romney to shoot himself in the foot with a gun he doesn't own.

The former Massachusetts governor last week began basking in the positive publicity that comes from raking in an impressive $20 million in contributions in the first quarter, more than any rival for the Republican nomination.

He ended the week trying to explain a discrepancy between assertion and fact when it comes to hunting credentials. It hurt because it's a reminder of discrepancies between assertion and fact when it comes to Romney's overall conservative credentials.

This week in Keene, N.H., Romney told a man in an NRA hat that he had "been a hunter pretty much all of my life," the Associated Press reported. The Romney campaign later acknowledged that Romney, 60, hunted one summer as a teenager and once in his late 50s. Earlier this year, Romney said, "I have a gun of my own." It turned out his son owns guns, not Romney. After boasting about his membership in the National Rifle Association, Romney later admitted he joined the group less than a year ago.

Of course, Romney is not alone when it comes to trying to woo the hunting crowd. During the 2004 campaign, John Kerry asked store owners in Ohio, "Can I get me a hunting license here?" He was further lampooned after he emerged from a cornfield, wearing a camouflage jacket and holding a dead goose. But Kerry actually owns guns.

Romney's effort to portray himself as a gun-loving hunter is part of a larger, well-documented strategy to present a conservative persona to Republican primary voters. So, Romney, the presidential candidate, brags about easing restrictions on gun owners. Yet, the Romney who ran for Senate in Massachusetts supported two gun-control measures strongly opposed by the NRA. As governor, he supported the state's strict gun control laws and signed into law new restrictions on assault weapons.

Romney, the presidential candidate, is against abortion; Romney, the Massachusetts candidate, said he believed abortion "should be safe and legal." Romney, the presidential candidate, opposes gay marriage; Romney, the Massachusetts candidate, sought and received the endorsement of the Log Cabin Republican Club, which promotes gay rights. As a gubernatorial candidate, Romney was open to stem cell research; as a governor planning a GOP presidential run, he called for restrictions on such research.

These are generally described as "flip-flops," and in that spirit, a man dressed as Flipper the dolphin occasionally shows up at some Romney events. But, when do flip-flops turn into something more ominous?

Changing from pro-gun control to anti-gun control is a flip-flop. Saying you are a longtime hunter when you hunted twice is an exaggeration. Saying you own a gun when you don't is a lie.

OK , it's a small lie, and Americans are used to whoppers from politicians. If you're a Republican, it doesn't measure up to President Bill Clinton saying, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." If you're a Democrat, it is nothing compared with the major discrepancies between assertion and fact made by President Bush regarding weapons of mass destruction as a trigger for war with Iraq.

But it does raise the trust issue, which is the main thing that stands between Romney and the Republican nomination. The Republican right wants to believe Romney is the passionate conservative he now insists he is. To believe it, conservative voters must dismiss much of what Romney espoused on social issues during two previous political campaigns.

To do that, conservatives must accept one of two possibilities: Romney lied to Massachusetts voters when he ran for office here, or he underwent a dramatic political conversion over the past five years, which just happened to coincide with his presidential run. Either scenario undercuts Romney's trustworthiness.

Like fish tales about the one that got away, Romney is ramping up his hunting anecdotes. When the subject is guns, he is also adopting a Yosemite Mitt style of talking. Campaigning in Indianapolis, he said "I've always been a rodent and rabbit hunter. Small varmints if you will. I began when I was 15 or so and I have hunted those kinds of varmints since then. More than two times."

On Friday, The New York Times published an article that asked "Is Romney a hunter? Depends on what hunt is."

The more dangerous question for Romney is whether he is a straight shooter.

Joan Vennochi's e-mail address is vennochi@globe.com.



To: Road Walker who wrote (332275)4/9/2007 6:20:00 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572953
 
Four years into a war fought to eliminate a nonexistent threat, we all have renewed appreciation for the power of the Big Lie: people tend to believe false official claims about big issues, because they can’t picture their leaders being dishonest about such things.

I was just about to say that to MM.



To: Road Walker who wrote (332275)4/9/2007 8:20:18 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1572953
 
The Clinton years were a parade of fake scandals: Whitewater, Troopergate, Travelgate, Filegate, Christmas-card-gate. At the end, there were false claims that Clinton staff members trashed the White House on their way out.

Each pseudoscandal got headlines, air time and finger-wagging from the talking heads. The eventual discovery in each case that there was no there there, if reported at all, received far less attention. The effect was to make an administration that was, in fact, pretty honest and well run — especially compared with its successor — seem mired in scandal.

Even in the post-9/11 environment, little lies never went away. In particular, promoting little lies seems to have been one of the main things U.S. attorneys, as loyal Bushies, were expected to do. For example, David Iglesias, the U.S. Attorney in New Mexico, appears to have been fired because he wouldn’t bring unwarranted charges of voter fraud.


If we had a truly independent media, Clinton's 'scandals' would not have seen the light of day and the three errant, GOP congressmen would have gotten equal billing with Pelosi. Democracies don't work properly when even just one component is out of whack.

This article needed to be written a long time ago. Thanks for posting it.