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To: epicure who wrote (226548)	4/9/2007 12:48:10 PM
From: lazarre	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Iktomi, AsI said, I disagree, with the same sort of vehemence, that some Ortho Jews and non-Jews, may find agreeable on the post in debate. Yet, the post had laid out some facts that are born out of experience; you may not agree with them and I respect that. though i can hardly find that possible in light of 911, unprovoked and deathly. A point you made I whole heartedly disagree with:" any other religion "accepted" in Christianity? I don't think so. Even among Christians there is no acceptance. If you haven't accepted Jesus as your personal savior, you're in deep doo doo according to the evangelicals- so they aren't really "accepting" the good Catholics." Chritians don a myriad of colors of acceptance; Episcopalians, Methodists, Congragationalists, et.al who don't but into if you're not one of us, you go directly to hell, no get out of jail card available. I know this from attending services in all the above's venues, accompanied by friends and family of that ilk. Regarding Catholicism, yes, doctrine does not allow, at all, for the get out of jail card. But that's the doctrine which is ignored by mosy Catholics I know. Just as the majority of Muslims I know. The post i put up for debate was---as most of this thread should know ( largely, I think we're an intelligent reasoned bunch--Garden, you, neolib, et.al---) a litany of facts regarding the fundamentalist, anti-west, out for blood brand of Islam. lazarre