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To: jlallen who wrote (226698)	4/11/2007 11:56:31 AM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

That surprising misunderstanding explains why you can say it's crapola. Of course AA doesn't originate any ban. They just get the list of people on the Terrorism Watch List and carry out their instructions. The AA man should have said, "We bar," rather than "ban," since they just carry out orders to bar people who are on government agencies' lists from getting on the plane. When the thousands of people on the list find they are not permitted to renew their driver's license on the internet, that's not because they're barred by the DMV, it's because the government has told the DMV to require those people to come in in person. That patriotic American's account was an irrefutable example of what this administration does to punish dissent. And the only way you could deny it was to pretend that it was based on a claim that American Airlines had been surveilling Bush critics. Another approach might be to pretend that Walter F. Murphy is a non-credible, unpatriotic American. He makes a good point here: "I confess to having been furious that any American citizen would be singled out for governmental harassment because he or she criticized any elected official, Democrat or Republican. That harassment is, in and of itself, a flagrant violation not only of the First Amendment but also of our entire scheme of constitutional government. This effort to punish a critic states my lecture's argument far more eloquently and forcefully than I ever could. Further, that an administration headed by two men who had "had other priorities" than to risk their own lives when their turn to fight for their country came up, should brand as a threat to the United States a person who did not run away but stood up and fought for his country and was wounded in battle, goes beyond the outrageous...."

To: jlallen who wrote (226698)	4/11/2007 4:37:19 PM
From: Garden Rose	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

jlallen, he was not banned by American Airlines for being in a peace march. Here's the picture: This Americn patriot (wounded in war and who had served his country with distinction) was placed on a terrorist list. AmAirlines, dealing with this routinely, and knowing that when you have a first-class outstanding citizen like the Colonel that should not be on the terrorist list, AA knew from PRIOR experience that "bogus" terrorist listings occur for those who participate in peace marches or are anti-Bush people. So, when AA is befuddled as to why a patriot is on the list, they fall back on the previous people who had been on the list, those that are in peace marches or are anti-Bush advocates but who really are not candidates for the terrorist list and should not be on the list. GR