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To: Bill who wrote (226700)4/11/2007 10:33:05 AM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
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To: Bill who wrote (226700)4/11/2007 10:34:30 AM
From: lazarre  Respond to of 281500
 
Bill!

Why not emigrate to to the country of your choice? I here the ME has their s^^^%$t together. Or better, yet, France?

Just some suggestions.

lazarre



To: Bill who wrote (226700)4/11/2007 11:57:52 AM
From: E  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
I have no idea whether the man's story is true or not

Sure you do.



To: Bill who wrote (226700)4/12/2007 2:37:10 PM
From: E  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Murphy isn't the only dissenter who's been held up at airlines.

I never said that AA employees were "interfacing for" the TSA. The AA guy was just reporting his experience. He'll be more careful in the future.

The PR statements you posted contain no surprises.

The idea that the Bush admin wouldn't punish people for revenge, while helpfully chilling dissent by others, makes me smile. I guess you think they wouldn't -- no way!

But I do agree with you that a certain number of those detained at airports (the infants and toddlers for example) because they're on a terrorist watchlist are there because the government, and, especially wildly, this administration, is/are incompetent and untrustworthy.

We may disagree in how much we suspect of their untrustworthiness stems from their simple 600.-a-hammer incompetence and how much from political motives -- chilling dissent; revenge. Whichever it is, it's not a characteristic that God suspended where rounding up the Gitmo detainees or the prisoners at Abu Ghraib was concerned. That's why, when investigations proceeded at Abu Ghraid, prisoners were released in droves: no evidence. And it's why the unconstitutional conditions under which Gitmo is run should repel all Americans. There's are reasons our sacred Constitution provides protection against the government. Incompetence, and because power corrupts.

The author of your post doesn't call into question the account Professor Murphy gave of his travels, only of whether his many public criticisms of the Bush administration's violation of the Constitution had anything to do with what happened to him. Well, it's happened to enough Bush critics that I tend to believe the comments of the AA employee.

BTW, it's cute the way you jump in to try to make JLA look less foolish.