To: LarsA who wrote (62432 ) 4/11/2007 4:35:39 PM From: Maurice Winn Respond to of 196952 Excellent point: <my whole point is: get the Telcos out of the handset business -as with landline phones. We have SIM cards, we will travel, to the best deal. Just sell us a big, fat wireless pipe to the internet, after giving us cheap voice calls (and if you don't we will use Skype). > A wireless device should be able to sniff the air, find a signal it can hook up with, ask the base station if it can use some megabytes. The base station says "Sorry, you are not a customer but if you pay 2c a megabyte, I'll deliver your stuff at 2 megabits per second right now and if you are willing to have it wait for up to an hour I'll deliver it at 1 megabit per second. If you can wait up to 12 hours, I'll deliver it for no charge." I want to talk so I push "pay now send now". Babe, the base station, has also checked with HQ that the phone is in good standing for credit, so starts delivering the call packets to the destination. At the end of the call Babe debits the account for the amount and informs HQ about the details of the call. If the caller sniffed 3 signals, the caller would choose which service to use. I think zenbu.net.nz would be a very good choice in New Zealand if it's available = cheap, fast and compatible with many devices. Zenbu is also an excellent search for NZ businesses and places as well as mapping. The idea of signing up for "plans" is absurd. People should be able to travel like they do on roads. Choose left, right or straight ahead and proceed along the road, paying the toll required as they go. Of course things are cheaper by the dozen, so a plan buyer would get a discount, but a single user should be able to pay the market rate and use the service once. What is needed is some smart marketers. Telcos don't have them. Telco marketers are like airline marketers = ex government monopolists who have no idea. When Southwest or Ryanair or Easyjet get going, we soon find out who is good at running an airline and who are merely ripoff merchants. Mqurice