To: Dennis Roth who wrote (82872 ) 4/11/2007 5:06:47 PM From: JimisJim Respond to of 206184 There you go again: <The real problem is you and California pretending there is no problem. California is "The State of Denial."> California is no different from the rest of the US in this respect except that CA has a very long/large coastline and states like Kentucky don't. The fact is that NIMBYs are everywhere in the US... a few years ago there were proposals to directional drill from shore to under the Great Lakes -- Wis., Ohio, Ind., Ill., Minn. all howled so loud I could hear them in San Diego... When I lived back east, every town/city I lived in had problems with finding new landfills/dumps to use... NIMBYs in every case were so vocal, most municipalities paid the trash collectors to truck waste to somebody else's landfill many miles away... the Rumpke landfill north of Cincy has become one of the largest in the world as a result -- Mt. Rumke they call it locally... What you are seeing in CA regarding LNG terminals offshore is simply another form of NIMBYism that is so prevalent all across the US. We all want/demand cheap energy, abundant clean water and the right to throw anything we want into the dumpster... but none of us wants to pay for locating drilling, LNG terminals, coal mines, waste water treatment plants or landfills anywhere we can see them -- if we can't see them, then they are OK and we can merrily go ahead and buy/drive/fill our Hummers and whistle happy tunes, tossing our cigarette butts out the window and pouring old motor oil down the storm drains... If the rest of the country were smart, they would learn from both CA's mistakes (energy dereg) and successes (lowest per capita energy use) because the problems CA faces today will be the problems the rest of the nation faces tomorrow. Jim