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To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (4905)4/11/2007 10:01:57 PM
From: ecrire  Respond to of 50497
 
Thanks. Agree with every word.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (4905)4/11/2007 10:34:17 PM
From: doublebooker  Respond to of 50497
 
I agree whole heartedly, but if your post was read by a broader forum than SI, it would probably result in a lot of hate mail by politically correct robots.
Black repulsive music won't be curtailed simply because it is profitable and we are no longer a nation that puts anything above greed...so we look for scapegoats because facing the truth is painful and hard. Hell, I'll submit to you if there was an IPO coming up for a Jew Oven manufacturer, it would be oversubscribed the first day if it appeared profitable. Morals and manners are American dinosaurs.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (4905)4/11/2007 11:29:54 PM
From: petermccone  Respond to of 50497
 
Slider, this is the first time I have responded to one of your posts since you warned me off Friede Goldman Halter back in 2000. Thanks again for that.

The best comparison I can come up with in regard to our minority problems is crabs. If you have ever been crabbing and placed the crabs you catch in a bucket you notice that if a crab attempts to get out of the bucket another crab will pull him back in just as he almost gains his freedom.

It takes a strong willed, determined, minority to escape his culture and capture the American Dream.

I highly admire those who are successful and feel sorry for those who get pulled back in but I do not have any guilt feelings as my Scottish ancestors came to this country as indentured servants.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (4905)4/12/2007 1:26:54 AM
From: praha4  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50497
 
Excellent points, Slider is 110% correct. Many in media also agree, but are too timid to state this. All of us have witnessed similar behaviour, and the observation that too many white teenagers are adopting the same "gangsta-rap" black culture, behaviour, appearance, language, and attitudes. Its considered "cool" these days. White America is losing its cultural identity because we have been bombarded from birth with the guilt trip over slavery that was perpetrated hundreds of years ago.

My ancestors owned no slaves. My ancestors did not profit from slavery. My ancestors fought in the Civil War for the North, and I lost 3 great uncles who died fighting for the Army of the Potomac at Gettysburg, Petersburg, and Shiloh.

Lets face it folks, while America and the media have been focussing on the Rutgers women's basketball team and Don Imus for the last week, much more important issues facing us rage on incessantly: Iraq and the mideast continue to go down the toilet, our national debt continues to skyrocket, and our open borders allow thousands of illegal immigrants free access to the US.

Our culture and values are rotting to the core, and the world sees it. We listen to politicians bought by global corporations, preach of "American values", when those are days past. Most Americans watch this "war on terror" on TV, fought by a rapidly breaking volunteer Army and Marine Corps, there is no shared sacrifice in this country for this war. It's silly for an American President and this Congress to continue to expect a volunteer Army to fight this was in this way. Renew the draft or get the hell out of the mideast wars.

From my many travels in Europe and Asian cultures, I come home every time with one observation. I don't see this constant barrage of self-pity in other cultures. African Americans are the most self-centered, spoiled group of crybabies, engaging in constant pity parties, of any ethnic group I have ever encountered in the world. Name any other country where you see Affirmative Action and EEO laws and programs to the extent we have here to protect and give advantage to black Americans. And still they aren't satisfied, and never will be. Every group has had it tough at one time or another, but at some point a group of people must do as Bill Cosby says and quit blaming everybody else for their problems.

The Imus episode makes me sick, watching the gutless hypocrites, as slider correctly calls them, parade on TV and in the press, piling on this issue. This was a basketball team remember? These girls play basketball and go to college, they weren't in the Peace Corps or the military doing some real good for the country. In the end, the Rutgers girls will stand up there with their smug looks on their faces, and not "forgive" Imus, for whatever he does or white Americans do, they will never be "forgiven". Then they will go back to practicing basketball with their favorite hiphop or rap music playing in the background or the locker room or their dorm rooms. Give me a break.

my final advice to all readers: get your assets out of US dollars, cuz we are witnessing the destruction of a culture, and when China decides to stop funding this drunken party by buying US Tsys, it won't be pretty when the mob starts fighting for the lifeboats.

good luck

praha4



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (4905)4/12/2007 1:53:58 AM
From: roto  Respond to of 50497
 
just think we export this sh*t to the world, screwing up the minds of young everywhere. it amazes me that we give license to the crap on MTV & BTV under the guise of 'free trade'; we turn sh*tloads of proselytizers loose on ancient cultures under the guise of religious tolerance; & we are not exactly winning the world's hearts & minds, much less their pocketbooks in foreign trade with our current political apparatus in Washington DC.
what I say, it is much more than some poor boorish black kids, who probably know little more than what they learn on the street. what does one say when the lily white suburban kids, who are supposedly 'educated', mimicking their black brothers out there (on MSNBC this evening during discussion on IMUS, it was mentioned that 60% of the 'hip- hop' musik is bought by white kids). what happened to the economically superior & 'smart' white parents? have they any sense of being much less brains?
I can only think this American culture has morphed into something that was considered unfathomable years ago. the breakdown in our society is always attributed to any number of causal concerns primarily focusing on American family instabilities. our problems are overwhelming our national psyche; the extreme exceptions are becoming norm.
just think...the breakdown in culture is promoted by Wall Street gurus as something akin to free enterprise. somebody should be making a few bucks out there. by the way, Mozart does not sell well but hey, what about 50c!



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (4905)4/12/2007 8:22:50 AM
From: bearjones  Respond to of 50497
 
I'm sad to say that white teen language curls hair big time!! I mean that it seems to be everywhere. I cant believe the every-other-word language these kids have. WE ARE IN TROUBLE WHEN THIS GROUP STARTS RUNNING THE SHOW AS ADULTS. OMG!!!



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (4905)4/12/2007 8:44:39 AM
From: crdesign  Respond to of 50497
 
What I heard was a group of 10 to 12 year olds in the stands using language that would curl the hair of veteran sailors. What was most disturbing was the sexual verbiage. And it came from both boys and girls. And for what it’s worth – all of it came from black kids.

Thru those keystrokes, You just contributed another block to the wall better know as the racial divide in this nation.

Did you get their Names, address' & SS#?

We should turn their parents in to the PC police.

fer sure Caucasians, Europeans, Latinos, Asians & Mid Easterners would NEVER talk like that...<wink>

'cmon, I know you didn't mean it that way, but the perception comes across...

Tim



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (4905)4/12/2007 9:19:47 AM
From: hubris33  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50497
 
Is this what you are talking about? LOL!

youtube.com

WARNING ! ! ! Title of Song has the F--- word in it.
VERY Explicit Language, F- word, Sexual situations, Illicit Substances, The N- word and prostitution.
DO NOT OPEN IF YOU WOULD BE OFFENDED!
Song is highly offensive to most people.


No need to worry about hearing the words correctly, they are spelled out on the screen...arguh!

Prime example of what is available to any kid, on the internet.

Just the kind of thing I gotta protect my kids from....and it is getting harder and harder to do!

Geez.

H3



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (4905)4/12/2007 9:29:21 AM
From: RonMerks  Respond to of 50497
 
BRAVO- well said!

Slider its like you read my mind.

What you said is exactly what 10 million people are also thinking but are afraid to say. No one thinks what Imus said is right, or supports it. But its the hypocrit mentality and the non-stop reverse racism that sickens me.

How many old rich white guys whose ancestors came from Poland, Holland, Italy, or Ireland who WERE slaves and surfs - and NEVER owned slaves- have to keep paying reparations (called affirmative action)and be punching bags & whipping boys for blatant racists like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and hypocrits like Slider pointed out in the likes of Robert Johnson?

White Guilt.

That says it all.

What the F@#& am I supposed to be guilty of?

Working 2 jobs for the first 15 years of my marriage?

Making sure I knew where my kids were?

Making sure I knew who their friends were?

Monitoring what they watched on TV and what they listened to on the radio?

For staying married and rasing my kids in a nuclear family?

For going to church on Sunday?

For paying my taxes and following the law?

If you want to talk about racism. How about a white candidate for a Police Sargaents job who scores in the upper 10% of all candidates taking the test- but can't get promoted because of affirmative action?

Whats fair about a poor white kid from the inner city who's parents just came here from Yugoslavia 6 years ago and who can't get into Law School at Michigan after working his way through college- because he's white?

The White guilt buck stops here.

RonM



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (4905)4/12/2007 2:40:53 PM
From: roguedolphin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50497
 
Presidential Candidate: U.S. In Danger of Dictatorship

infowars.com
Congressman Ron Paul warns elite believe they own us and are "always prepared" to take our liberties
Infowars.net | April 11, 2007
Steve Watson & Alex Jones

Presidential candidate Ron Paul has warned that the US is now at a crisis point because the people have been so neglectful of protecting their liberties and big government has been so effective in eroding them. He warned that the elite are prepared to concoct events to scare the American people and asserted that the 2008 Presidential election is a contest between the people who care about their freedoms and those who are willing to succumb to the temptations of dictatorship.

Congressman Ron Paul joined Alex Jones on air this week for a full hour to discuss his ongoing Presidential campaign and give his views on what he believes the fundamental issues are in America today.

The Congressman gave a candid interview in which he discussed many topics in depth including the economy, foreign policy, the North American Union, the possibility of a draft and the situations in Iraq and Iran.

Known for what many have described as his impeccable voting record, Ron Paul is a champion of individual liberty and a strong campaigner for restoration of a true Constitutionalist form of US government, a trait that has made him a rare and popular candidate amongst people from all across the political spectrum.

When asked what he believes the overriding issue in America today is the Congressman pointed towards the erosion of personal freedoms:

"Probably it's the threat to individual liberty. because our government is growing endlessly by leaps and bounds and nobody seems to want to put a hold on it. every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty."

The Congressman explained that freedom is the underlying issue because the consequences of such erosion of individual liberty have a knock on effect in many different areas. Economically, for example, the country is becoming dependent, less productive and less self sustaining.

"Economically the consequences will be that there's going to be a wholesale rejection of the dollar, because the world has trusted the dollar, especially since the breakdown of the Bretton Woods in 1971, when the linkage of the dollar to gold was broken, they still trusted the dollar as if it were gold, and therefore we can print the money and we can spend the money and foreign countries take our money, then loan it back to us, so they're getting a bum rap." Paul stated.

"They get a temporarily good deal but what it does is encourage us not to be productive, it encourages us not to have manufacturing any longer, we can let others do it cheaper, cheap labour, and then we buy it with cheap money. That is going to come to an end. That means later on there are going to be a lot of changes here. Domestically the interest rates are going to rise, the inflation rate, the price of all goods and services, that will rise, and the economy will weaken, so we have some very serious problems ahead."

Turning to foreign policy the Congressman asserted that his first action if he were to be elected as President would be to start to bring American troops home from all over the world.

"As a Commander in chief you could certainly handle the troops around the world. I would start talking to all our allies and tell them what the plans were and start coming home. We are now spending close to a trillion dollars maintaining our foreign policy. It's a lot bigger than most people realise if you add up the Dod, the supplementals, the interest on the money we spend and taking care of our veterans."

The Congressman made it clear that aggression abroad and America as a world police force has had a disastrous impact upon the very fabric of the country.

"We have turned our own country into isolationists, diplomatically we don't talk to anybody, we have more enemies than we've ever had before and fewer allies, and at the same time our ability to defend this country is being diminished on a daily basis. We worry about borders, all around he world, we worry about borders in Korea, about borders around Iraq, and what do we do with our own borders? Here we don't do anything."

Paul then turned to the issue of the North American Union and made it clear that he believes the plans that have been secretly laid in Washington to merge the US, Mexican and Canadian economies are yet again the fallout from the souring of liberty in America.

We have behind the scenes a plan for a North American Union, that's the part that the American people are starting to wake up to, although we have a long way to go to wake up Washington. It's amazing to me how many people outside of Washington are very much aware of the plans with this North American Union, at the same time they are in total denial in Washington, except for the few behind the scenes who are laying the plans and providing the finances."

Turning to discussion of his Presidential campaign, Ron Paul championed the alternative media and the internet as vital tools in allowing him to get his message across to a multitude of people that never could have been reached before without huge injections of money:

"The internet already has been very helpful and I think it's going to be more helpful as time goes on, and that's something that is becoming more so everyday, ten fifteen years ago it wasn't so significant. The other thing is radio talks shows like what you have are very important. Almost every place I go somebody will come up to me and I'll say 'how did you get involved' and it's through your show. So there are a lot of people who have joined our campaign and have already started to show up at our events because of your encouragement."

Paul emphasized that although the bigger candidates can raise millions of dollars through special interests, a lot of that money is wasted on private jets, huge salaries, advisors, advertising and the like. So there isn't as big a gulf between he and the other candidates as people may think.

The Republican Congressman, who has been dubbed "founding father material", by his supporters has surprised some with his initial success, having gained widespread support from Libertarians, Liberals and Conservatives alike.

He stressed that you have to be in the game to have any chance of winning it, and that this not only applies to his own campaign but more importantly applies also to everyone who wishes to remain free in America.

"Time is running out and we may lose our liberties to the point where we won't have these responses." Paul stated.

"You know there's nothing that guarantees that they will allow you to air your radio show forever. They have already trampled on our rights, they talking about putting people in prison today without Habeas Corpus... If we don't preserve our fundamental freedoms we can't fight back. I'm convinced of one thing, we could all be very very poor tomorrow and have to start from scratch but if we have our freedoms and we have our sound currency and we have the government off our backs, this country would rebound so quickly."

Paul then outlined what he feels that the 2008 Presidential election is all about, and also warned that the elite are prepared to attempt to take the liberty of the people and change the course of history:

"I think they are always prepared and everyday they have more powers than before because under these emergency powers acts, the President now has more authority than ever. And the contest that is really going on in this Presidential election is are there enough of us that care about our freedoms versus those who are willing to succumb to the temptations of dictatorship. Just think of the attitude, what it was like right after 9/11 when they passed the Patriot Act, I said 'you know it's not even available, you can't even read it and we're getting ready to vote' they said 'it doesn't matter, the people want us to do something, this looks like we're doing something, it sounds good, there's no way I'm even gonna question this', so they voted for it. They got their signals from the people. it is true that there are a lot of people who wanted something done, the big question is are there more of them or more of us?" Paul commented.

in further reference to 9/11 the Congressman stated:

"I think freedom's been sliding for a long time and it got a lot worse after 9/11 and I'm always afraid of some concocted event that will scare the American people.... The people in this country need a little bit more reason to go along with the President, but unfortunately our leaders in this country too often have been able to provide the incident that unifies the country behind more militarism."

We implore our readers to listen to the entire interview here and support Ron Paul's campaign. His voting record speaks for itself and he represents a genuine chance to attempt to put things right in America today.

To support Ron Paul you can visit his website at www.RonPaul2008.com , where you can donate online or find out how to donate via other methods.

Rogue



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (4905)4/13/2007 3:39:15 AM
From: c.hinton  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50497
 
perhaps you guys are targeting the wrong culprits.........I place the blame squarly on TV......and all who lack the self awareness to realize the effect it has on ones desires and fears.
ps oh yea ,being a guilt ridden protestant is icing on the cake.
Try a bit of abolition of sin.....you will feel alot better.
jmho



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (4905)4/13/2007 5:51:30 PM
From: re3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50497
 
okay but what about gold -g-