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To: TobagoJack who wrote (17103)4/14/2007 11:18:14 PM
From: Slagle  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218005
 
TJ,
"where do such beliefs arise from?"

The facts. Eastern China was under Japanese occupation, and a mostly peaceful occupation at that. The occupied region DID NOT boil and churn with rebellion and for the most part accepted the Japanese rule without complaint.

Chinese coastal waters were in the complete possession of the Imperial Navy.

Free China which LIKE I SAID was unable to build even a repeating rifle to use against the Japanese and free China was totally and completely isolated. So just how was Chaing or Mao going to defeat the Japanese? Sticks and spears against a modern army?

And Chiang, quite reasonably, would have rather allowed Japan to occupy even more of the country rather than let a single town come under Mao's control.

But you are in denial about a great deal more, to boot. China IS the issue that caused us to go to war. Cordell Hull from beginning to end with his negotiations with Ambassador Nomura demanded complete Japanese withdrawal from China as a precondition to any American consideration of Japanese demands.

Hull was on strong ground here, too as far as the American public went. There was great American sympathy for the plight of the Chinese. OTOH, regardless whether you believe the "Holocaust" is a fabrication or the Gospel truth, in 1941 there was nearly ZERO sympathy for any of Hitlers victims, Jew or Gentile, as the American attitude was that mass murder was just the norm for Europe and that there was nothing we could or should do about it as Europeans will just do this, left to their own devices.

But the American public in 1941 looked at the Chinese as innocent victims. Part of this is related to Chiangs very successful PR campaign here. Another factor was the Christian church, as very many American missionaries had served in China.
Slagle



To: TobagoJack who wrote (17103)4/14/2007 11:26:40 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 218005
 
Ego: <where do such beliefs arise from?> Chimps and Kings, Emperors and Presidents, are full of it, not to mention their supporting cast of acolytes.

They believe in their own importance and their destiny. Often to the extent that they believe Go- Himsel- has individually hand-picked said glorious leader and tribe to be the best thing, not just since sliced bread but since the wheel and fire were invented, not to mention more significant than all other living things combined. The one true -od-given DNA above all others which are mere dross to be disposed of or merely bossed around, if not enslaved, or eaten.

I hear echoes from you and Hu.

Mqurice