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To: tecate78732 who wrote (230008)4/15/2007 10:44:39 AM
From: Dan3Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Re: You have no idea what you are talking about and you have no proof that there were threats.

Look, my job is to manage an IT program so I basically stay out this issue (other than blowing off some steam, here). I select Intel parts when they are more suitable for a project. I posted about the Solectron event because it was particularly egregious. But here's some more, just for you.

One of the OEMs I worked with was suggesting Supermicro based AMD servers for some applications. I pointed out that there was no such thing as a Supermicro AMD board and he told me there had been a whole line of fully qualified parts for a long time that would be available soon. I was put in contact with Supermicro tech support who told me they had a contract with Intel that precluded them from selling anything that worked wtih AMD parts and that they would be getting released from that restriction (by Intel) soon. This was when the anti-trust stuff was starting to heat up. He gave me access to an FTP site with very complete docs (user manuals that included photographs, installation guides, bios updates, drivers, etc.). It was the contents of what was later released as the Aplus site. It was for both boards and barebones. A broader line, that was frankly better documented and mature looking than the MSI stuff that had been in the field for about a year. Apparently the OEM who'd sent me to Supermicro had had fully qualified samples for a long time.

You know, the UAW and Detroit auto companies would be in whole lot better shape today if they'd just written into the contracts of every freight transport, freight dock, parts maker, etc. a clause that barred those companies from doing business with Honda, Toyota, or Nissan (Datsun). There'd have never been any competition from imports and the only cars we'd be allowed to buy would be made by UAW workers operating under excruciatingly restrictive work rules.

Wouldn't that have been great? If only the UAW and Detroit auto companies had been as smart as Intel.



To: tecate78732 who wrote (230008)4/15/2007 11:17:16 AM
From: RinkRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
re: You have no idea what you [i.e. Dan] are talking about, ...

There's absolutely no way you can be sure about this.

... and you have no proof that there were threats.

There's absolutely no way you can be sure about this either.

Pls provide some simple leeway if you have no real facts to support your stance.

I understand you doubt Dan until there are hard facts. No difficulty understanding your viewpoint so far. I don't understand why you don't apply your rule of needing facts to your own stance that he has no idea + no proof.

In case you don't have facts I suggest you don't have enough authority to make remarks like you do. Is this really an unreasonable suggestion?!

Regards,

Rink