To: Brumar89 who wrote (17198 ) 4/15/2007 11:17:15 PM From: TobagoJack Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219648 <<I didn't know HK had socialized health care but probably s/h given its part of China, I suppose>> .. wrong, china does not have genuine socialized medicine; and yes, hk is special. <<Food - ... Baloney>> ... not really, because we have it at every street corner for the streets that matter, which is a lot. <<Capital control - here are no restrictions on capital flows>> ... no? try hand carrying USD 100,000 on international airplane trip departing any USA city and see how many times you get pulled over and ID-ed. <<Family value - HK 1. Wonder why the birth rate is so low? ...>> ... true freedom is expensive. Hardly any HK kids are put up for adoption. <<Imposition/persuation/brain-washing - So is voluntary religious missionizing not allowed there?>> ... sure, no one cares one way or another. The Mormans are all over the place, recruiting mostly Filipinos. <<Sexual orientation supervision - not welcomed. HK 1. There is no such supervision here>> ... yes there is, because people ask and people answer. <<I wonder about something - American adoptions of Chinese babies is not uncommon. Would China allow adoption of Chinese babies by Rosie O'Donnell - a gay woman who has adopted several children?>> ... yes, but only up to the start of this year, so no. China adopted some international standard and stopped obese and gays and old folks from adopting. <<Communists, Republicans, Democrats, Social Democrats etc ... what's the difference? In the final analysis, very little. Communism has murdered tens of millions of people, maintained massive gulags for political prisoners>> ... sounds like the Republicans. <<This is public knowledge. Why deny it?>> ... exactly. <<Did you know that should you wish to decamp from citizenship of USA you need to get psychiatric certification as sane No, I didn't know it>> ... check it out. <<How many people, sane or insane, give up American citizenship? Very very few.>> ... enough to have Congress passing laws that restrict and hassle the practice. <<and instantly recognize taxable gains on all holdings even if no sale is involved and pay the taxes? That, Brumar89, is a prison rule, and is CAPITAL CONTROL. I don't think I believe that>> ... it is not a matter of believing, it is a matter of LAW! <<Renouncing citizenship would not erase tax obligations, but wouldn't trigger any by itself either.>> ... you are wrong. TJP.s. check the pot, and see if the frog is still moving ;0)