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To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (83074)	4/16/2007 3:01:47 AM
From: t4texas	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206326

that's a good article. yep, high prices breed more frugal consumers of energy. also your article cites loss of ca manufacturing jobs in industries requiring mucho energy. thanks for the knowledge.

To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (83074)	4/16/2007 6:39:56 AM
From: quehubo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206326

Since 2001, California has lost 375,000 manufacturing jobs, a 19.9 percent drop that slightly exceeded the nationwide decline of 17 percent. I wonder what this has been over the last 20 years? This no doubt is a large component of the per capita energy use stat. Long before natural gas became expensive Calexico was pushing industry away with environmental compliance issues.

To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (83074)	4/16/2007 8:47:05 AM
From: Bridge Player	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206326

<<So the state adopted stringent appliance standards -- before the federal government did -- and staved off construction of the Sundesert plant. The change in California's refrigerators has saved energy equal to all the hydroelectric power produced nationwide, Rosenfeld says.>> According to reputable sources, here waterencyclopedia.com and others, roughly 10-12% of electric power generation comes from hydroelectric. Anybody who believes that more efficient refrigerators save 10% of total U.S. electric consumption also believes in the truth fairy. Rosenfeld's statement, as printed, is total horseshit. If he in fact ever made that statement it would seem he has an ax to grind, is given to extreme hyperbole, or both.