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To: Alighieri who wrote (333898)	4/18/2007 12:51:31 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583713

Al, > It's quite strange that this is a significant struggle for us "non believers" but it is not for you people of faith. It's not strange at all. Denial seems to be the main characteristic of you "non-believers." You yourself wasn't willing to "turn the other cheek" when it came to Afghanistan ( Message 21180179 ), so why do you demand that from those who suffered worse? The cost of praying for your enemies is deep. You trivialize it with your denial and intellectualism, then escape any counterargument with the cop-out, "I don't believe." To anyone who suffered under Japanese rule, it doesn't matter what rationale Truman used when he ordered the dropping of the two nukes. Had they been in possession of the nuke, they would have used it without any hesitation. As a non-Christian, do you want to accuse them of not being Christian? Or do you just want to accuse them of hypocrisy? Either way, you're being a hypocrite, which of course is the only sin in the eyes of non-believers. Tenchusatsu

To: Alighieri who wrote (333898)	4/18/2007 1:13:54 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583713

Considering we'd been so thoroughly demonized by the Japanese propogandists that the entire able population was prepared and equipped to go kamikaze as we invaded the home islands, I think the nukes were justified. I'd have rather we used one as a demonstration first, at some highly visible but relatively empty site, say right down the pipe of Mt. Fuji. Then, give them a day or two to surrender.

To: Alighieri who wrote (333898)	4/19/2007 6:05:55 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583713

Frankly the bombing of the two cities had little to do with retribution and all to do with the calculated outcome of an American invasion of Japan and the resulting expected loss of American lives. So Truman traded soldiers' lives for Japanese lives instead. Not really. An invasion would likely have killed more Japanese then the nukes did. Even doing neither, and continuing conventional and incendiary bombing, combined with the blockade for more than a short period would have likely killed more Japanese then the nukes did. The nukes killed a lot of people, but they had more shock value per death then the methods that the Japanese where more used to (and which killed a lot more in total then the nukes)