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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (333961)	4/18/2007 5:29:54 PM
From: d[-_-]b	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571842

ten, re:even if Virginia Tech allowed firearms to be carried into the classroom, the vast majority would choose not to. True - no argument, statistics show less than 10% of people with permits carry at all. However this has no bearing on the denial of a right to self defense. Odds are good that someone may have had a weapon on them or in a dorm room and could have acted. Even teachers could/should carry in order to protect their students. I suppose you could argue schools have an obligation to protect our kids. At my kids middle school a female teacher was caught carrying on school grounds not long ago. Her husband was nuts and she had a restraining order against him, but she feared he'd come to her classroom and perhaps shoot her or the students. They didn't prosecute her, but they said she could not carry the gun - this guy was clearly nuts and had already made threats that had her concerned. So once again the "gun-free" zone has made everyone a possible victim with no form of self defense nor armed security. Thankfully, nothing has happened to date. re:because no one can say how gun control or the lack thereof could have affected things Obviously untrue - if someone fired back they could have stopped this. That said they could also have missed and injured someone else, concealed carry is for self defense - you have no obligation to serve and protect others.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (333961)	4/19/2007 2:59:18 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571842

Either way, even if Virginia Tech allowed firearms to be carried into the classroom, the vast majority would choose not to. True. And it was one classroom quickly shot up in less then a minute the odds are no one would have been armed and able to stop him. But it was over a two and half hour period at two different locations. There where quite a few people in the buildings. If one in 20 or even one in 100 where armed he probably could have been stopped with a lower death toll (not that 20 or 10 or even 5 dead would not have been horrible, but it would have been better than what actually happened)