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To: ManyMoose who wrote (203285)	4/18/2007 11:57:15 PM
From: Joe Btfsplk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793914

Does NZ have anything equivalent to our Second Amendment Maybe Mq will have to suffice?

To: ManyMoose who wrote (203285)	4/19/2007 1:44:11 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793914

MM, we don't have rights in NZ. We are state chattels. In the past, we'd be called serfs. We have lots of "well-regulated" but the only militias are criminals who seem to roam around unhindered. They seem to have as many guns as they want. Fortunately, for the most part, people are less inclined to go around shooting each other here, but there have been some attempts on world-record mass shootings. Mostly the mass shootings involve the person's family and people near where they live. Educational establishments don't attract as much ire or fire as they do in the USA. Nor do work-places. Our person and property are subject to eminent domain and Helengrad confiscates both at their whim. We can be ordered around for anything and by any number of government agents. There are so many regulations that the various government departments have to compete to get the money first. Mostly these days, people give up on trying to do anything before they start. Like in a good war, the first contact with the authorities changes all plans. Usually to abject surrender. Taking on Big Sister is not for the faint of heart. Great wealth is needed to do it and nearly everyone fits into the little wealth category. If we could afford it, we'd drown our sorrows in Vodka, like the Russians, but taxes, duties and general regulation limits most to a bloating consumption of beer. We don't even have a written constitution, let alone a second amendment. There are regulations, permits, laws, acts, statutes, bylaws, taxes, duties, imposts, fees, charges, levies, rates, fines, galore. Everything is illegal unless specifically permitted, in which case it's compulsory. The government spends about 60% of all spending. Maybe it's 70% if we include concealed things like electricity sales, water and the like. Plus, we have to put in a lot of uncounted compliance effort, so it's nearer 90% if our time was valued too as government spending. Mqurice