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To: Brumar89 who wrote (203322)4/19/2007 10:45:53 AM
From: MulhollandDrive  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793840
 
do you just possibly think that adult students with an urgent warning that a double homicide occured and the shooter was still on the loose would have the smarts to hustle back to their dorms or get off campus?

you don't question the logic of holding classes as usual after such an event?

you don't think that that act alone create a false sense of security in the faculty and students?

what pisses me off is the attitude that because EVERYTHING couldn't have been done somehow justifies that little or nothing was done in a timely way

unclewest's 'quote of the day' was nothing more than a weaseling attempt at the press conference (which i watched in entirety live) when asked about why wasn't more done AT THE TIME of the first two killings, to diffuse culpability of the police by saying basically we, meaning the police, can't be everywhere for everyone....as IF that was ever a realistic expectation of anyone, iow set an impossibly high standard and then stand there and excuse oneself for not meeting it...conveniently taking the focus off of how you royally f'd up doing what you COULD have REALISTICALLY done

the fact that the killer was picking off students and faculty one by one WHILE there was a heavy police presence on campus 'investigating' should sicken everyone



To: Brumar89 who wrote (203322)4/19/2007 1:32:52 PM
From: KLP  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793840
 
That's what I was getting at a couple of days ago. Excellent questions, that we should be better asking ourselves, and asking those whose job it is to implement the things that need to be done.

IF there are 100+ buildings, wouldn't one assume that we'd need at least a minimum of 4 police per building? Probably more? On a rapid deployment of police for that size of campus, it would at a minimum take 400 campus police, and the town police when called. Are that many available cops in the area? How long would it take to get others from other communities in?

Are there loudspeakers on all buildings? it didn't sound like there were any there.

Remember in that hour an a half to 2 hours, no one knew who he shooter was....nor where he was. No one knew if he was a student or not....

And in this case, as we see yesterday, after the first two murders, he wasn't on campus per se'. He evidently was in his dorm, getting the package ready, then went to the post office and was there at least by 9:01...

If he had heard that the buildings were locked, would he have killed any on campus who were walking around aka Charles Whitman...?

How did anyone know then, that there wasn't more than one shooter, and that possibly there were others inside some of the buildings that might have been secured, with students and teachers inside.....target rich environment....

Hopefully, all colleges and such institutions everywhere will be having some thought provoking meetings soon, to discuss some of the problems encountered here, and try to resolve some answers ASAP!

It really doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that worldwide terror groups could be looking at the media coverage here, and see major flaws in the system where someone so inclined could do the same thing.

This can happen in any college campus or in any business campus ....or any large group of buildings in any given area.