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To: TimF who wrote (334111)	4/19/2007 2:54:05 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1573827

Europe cool on US missile bases plan By Daniel Dombey in Brussels and Neil Buckley in Moscow Published: April 19 2007 18:39 \| Last updated: April 19 2007 18:39 The US on Thursday encountered a measure of success as it sought to overcome scepticism among its Nato allies and hostility from Russia over its plans to locate missile defence bases in Europe. At a meeting at Nato headquarters in Brussels, top officials from the missile programme?and?from?the departments of state and defence argued that the system would help to protect almost all of the US’s European allies and offered more co-operation with Russia. Vladimir Putin, Russia’s president, has warned that the US bases in central Europe could herald a return to the tensions of the cold war and senior German Social Democrat politicians have voiced deep concerns about alienating Moscow. Thursday, Konstantin Totskiy, Moscow’s ambassador to Nato, underlined Russia’s concerns, but also welcomed the meeting as the start of a long-awaited “dialogue”. The US delegation argued that the proposed sites in Poland and the Czech Republic would allow the system to cover all but a handful of Nato allies. The system, which is principally designed to protect the continental US, already uses bases in California and Alaska. According to maps circulating among Nato officials, only Turkey and parts of Greece, Bulgaria and Romania would be outside the system’s protection once additional interceptor missiles were installed in Poland and radar in the Czech Republic. Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, Nato secretary-general, is enthusiastic about winning Nato support for a complementary “bolt-on” system that would use Patriot missiles and Aegis radar to protect Turkey and other parts of south-east Europe from shorter-range missiles from Iran. Nato officials said Thursday’s discussion showed growing acceptance of the need for such a complementary system, which would use capabilities already being developed by Nato. However, some countries, including Turkey and Belgium, voiced worries that shooting down missiles could leave them at risk of radioactive debris, and also mentioned concerns about command and control of the new system, public opinion and the reaction of Russia. The US insists the missile defence system is designed to counteract an attack from Iran and would be useless against Russia’s nuclear arsenal, but Moscow has yet to be convinced. Mr Totskiy said Russia was still considering US proposals to deepen co-operation with Moscow on missile defence,?which?would?include steps such as sharing early warning information. In Moscow, however, Sergei Ivanov, Russia’s first deputy prime minister, said he saw “no grounds” for co-operation with the US on a joint missile defence system. Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2007 ft.com

To: TimF who wrote (334111)	4/19/2007 3:00:37 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1573827

You said it yourself, the US is more violent than most European countries. That doesn't just include more gun violence, we have more non-gun violence (and if we had a tendency to only be as violent as Europeans, then our non-gun violence would be less because gun violence can substitute for, stop, and/or deter non-gun violence) That's right. And that's because this society is not well. What irks the hell out of me is that anytime someone points that out, some GOP bubba will start screaming: Love it or leave it! I don't know how you all got the right to say what goes on in this country but its coming to end.