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To: philv who wrote (14871)	4/19/2007 4:34:30 PM
From: Crimson Ghost	Respond to of 22250

EUROPEANS ABOUT TO MAKE HOLOCAUST DENIAL A CRIMINAL DEFENSE; STILL FINE TO SAY THE ARMENIANS DESERVED WHAT THEY GOT [There are few better markers of the state of democracy than the right of citizens to be wrong in what they say and think. America is also moving in this anti-democratic direction with pressure for more hate crime legislation.] TOBIAS BUCK, FINANCIAL TIMES - Laws that make denying or trivializing the Holocaust a criminal offence punishable by jail sentences will be introduced across the European Union, according to a proposal. Offenders will face up to three years in jail under the proposed legislation, which will also apply to inciting violence against ethnic, religious or national groups. . . The Baltic countries and Poland are still holding out for an inclusion of "Stalinist crimes" alongside the Holocaust in the text - a move that is being resisted by the majority of other EU countries. The latest draft, seen by the Financial Times, will make it mandatory for all Union member states to punish public incitement "to violence or hatred directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, color, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin". They will also have to criminalise "publicly condoning, denying or grossly trivializing crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes" when such statements incite hatred or violence against minorities. Diplomats stressed the provision had been carefully worded to include only denial of the Holocaust - the Nazi mass murder of Jews during the second world war - and the genocide in Rwanda in 1994. . . Holocaust denial is already a criminal offence in several European countries, including Germany and Austria. . . In an attempt to assuage Turkish fears, several EU diplomats said the provisions would not penalize the denial of mass killing of Armenians by Ottoman troops in the aftermath of the 1915 collapse of the Ottoman empire. Turkey strongly rejects claims that this episode amounted to genocide. ft.com \|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|