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Politics : President Barack Obama -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: MJ who wrote (1999)	4/22/2007 11:24:13 AM
From: ChinuSFO	Respond to of 149317

MJ, the US lives by the decade manifested in the choice of its President. During the Clinton years it was "American are global leaders in world economy" People said "Just look at job growth, look at the prosperity level." At that time if a candidate like Obama and his message came along, he would not have been given serious consideration. In the face of prosperity, Americans started to and derived pleasure in the Monica Lewinsky drama. They tool their eyes off the ball on what it takes to be great when a man, who with God on his lips and vacuum in his brains convinced a majority of the Americans to vote for him (or rather Him) as President. And the decade following his ascendancy has seen nothing but violence and killing around the world particularly in Iraq. HIs leadership , if he had any, succumbed to the leadership provided by a violent man called Osama bin Laden. It was Osama who led this world into violence and Bush reciprocated in kind. We mourn the loss of 32 innocent lives in VT. And mourn we must. But stop to think about the mourning of Iraqis when thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens are getting killed due to presence of "Christian troops on Arab land" in an Iraqi view. They are right in pointing their accusing finger at Americans who are funding the carnage and killing in Iraq through their tax dollars voted by their Congress person. Like you, many Americans yearn to hear something positive. But before that can happen, the negatives about America that the world perceives today must be removed. And Obama's remarks about what ails America is an echo of the global and that of an increasing number of Americans. I view his candidacy as not one like "an ostrich in the sand." I second zeta's point of view which is close to Obama's in that "there is no black America, there is no white America, there is the United States of America." Katrina did not just hit the black community in NO, nor did violence hit the white community in VT. It was not created by the Korean community. It was created by and it hit the Unites States of America.

To: MJ who wrote (1999)	4/24/2007 12:07:21 PM
From: zeta1961	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 149317

MJ, I apologize for this delay in responding to your post..I was on the road and probably shouldn't have entered this conversation.. Obama was speaking in broad strokes when he talked about Americans glorifying violence, tolerating it in the piece we're discussing..it resonated with my experience living and working in critical care nursing during the 80s and 90s..I also was involved in looking at violence/prevention in families and schools in Boston during the 90s.. Quite honestly, last week's tragedy at Virginia Tech has left me devestated, esp. since I now have the time to think about it..at so many levels and aspects of Cho's life, there was an opportunity to contain him, long before he committed this massacre..violence leaking out of the ghetto and into the suburbs is something we activists saw coming way before Columbine but we couldn't get people to listen.. One of my nephews was suffering a profound depression last year while a sophomore in college in the Northeast..my sister had a miserable time trying to get information and intervene on his behalf..what worked?..Sean's paternal uncle gives buckets of money to his school so the laws of confidentiality were overlooked and a tight communication/support system has been set up for my nephew.. One of the things I appreciate about Obama is that unlike the other candidates, his rallies and speeches are much less 'rah-rah,' "I'm your man" and more like conversations with his voice, at times low enough, that you have to be quiet in order to hear what he's saying..he also places the responsibility squarely on Americans to be part of the changes they're looking for government or for him to fix..while the others continue with "I'll fix it all for you." His speech in Selma, an example.. I don't have answers right now as gun control, etc. are being debated during the VT aftermath..until we listen to the social scientists' suggestions on what is going on in communities that are safe and healthy, we'll be lacking in meaningful interventions and policy..indeed, imho, until we, as individuals, realize that attitudes and policy that effect negatively on any child, no matter how far or close-by, is policy that will negatively impact our own day to day lives, we won't get anywhere.. edited for punctuation/grammar