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To: Alan Smithee who wrote (203491)	4/20/2007 3:12:14 PM
From: Ichy Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793820

Not to be rude to maurice, but one of the problems is that they hire the wrong people for intelligence work and security work. The israelis early in the countries life could fight Terrorism because they understood it. Carefully taught well educated young men, cannot conceive of the products of rage. and what you cannot conceive, you cannot stop. The US feels like it is safe, you cannot fight a terrorist when you know you are safe. You send nice young men to iraq, with vacation time, and regular trips home, and all kinds of stuff that means you are not serious in the war you are fighting. I noticed that while the young man murdered those poor University kids, no one had time for the angst of war. The angst is for the TV Cameras, but your defeat is now written in stone. You cannot win, you have told al Qaeda you are defeated, and unless you impeach the man who claims you are defeated, you cannot prove to American Troops or to your enemy that you are not. When Iran tests it's bomb, it will be a win for the Democrats. You need to go to the tough guys, the drug cartels, the smugglers and you need to enlist the very best you can find to aid you to fight terrorists, just as you did in the second world war. And you need to put armed marshalls on the planes, and say so. And kill anyone who acts like a terrorist. If they are dead they cannot bring down the plane or complain.

To: Alan Smithee who wrote (203491)	4/20/2007 3:17:37 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 793820

I don't see why people can't spend as much of their money as they like, on anything they like, including supporting the politician of their choice. I support a political party, Act act.org.nz which a couple of elections ago had a LOT of money. They did stupid things with it. Such as taking out big newspaper advertisements. What the newspaper advertisement said, to me, and obviously to a lot of other people, was "We have got a lot of money and think we can buy the election by putting great big expensive advertisements all over the place, and you poor people will have to do what we say and we'll probably take all the money because we obviously think money is really what matters." That's not what the advertisements actually had written on them, but what matters is the message people get, not what is written. I don't give them any money. I give time doing things that I think are worthwhile, such as delivering leaflets which I agree with. Another message was, "Look how we spend money when we have got hold of it and we have got lots of it so we are in the habit of spending lots of it. So, when we get hold of your little bit, we'll be able to spend that flat out too." Plus, "Look how important we are. Much more important than you, who can't buy even a little advertisement. So you should vote for us so you feel even smaller." It's frustrating supporting politicians, but one of them is going to win, so you have to pick the best of a bad bunch and hopefully they'll do more of what you think is a good thing to do than the rest will do. In New Zealand, the politicians pay for their campaigns by stealing taxes from people and dishing it out for this, that and the other. The Auditor General found they did too much of it this time, so the government passed a law which made it that they didn't. But they claim they are going to pay the money they stole back [that was before they passed the law]. Of course, candidates who don't have access to the taxpayer's money have to pay for their own campaigns. The government is now making laws so they aren't allowed to spend money. act.org.nz But the "main" parties will each be given funds by the government in proportion to their last election results. Which means, doing the complicated mathematics, that the government is making a law that they will get more money than anyone else to try to persuade voters that they should be able to spend the taxes again next time and boss everyone around with thousands of stupid laws and give the money out to the people who vote them back in. So, swarms of people vote them back in. Those who don't vote them back in are, not surprisingly, the people who produce the money by making and selling things people CHOOSE to buy. Not surprisingly, more and more of those people are voting with their feet and going to Australia, USA, UK, Japan, China, Singapore, anywhere. Those who are bludgers can't go anywhere and don't want to anyway. They like collecting the workers' money for themselves. Mqurice PS: Now, Act doesn't have a lot of money. But they established the reputation and are trying to live it down.