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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (203512)4/20/2007 9:32:40 PM
From: kech  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793804
 
Seems like you have it a bit backwards Maurice.

Examples like "Japan is safe because they don't have guns" aren't very convincing because they might also be perfectly safe if they did have guns. Much better to use scientific method and do experiments with controls, say a before and after.

This article on what happened to the crime rate in Florida when they introduced a law legalizing concealed gun carry is pretty convincing that it decreased the crime rate significantly.

cato.org



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (203512)4/20/2007 9:42:52 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 793804
 
Killing of mayor jolts Japan
The Associated Press
Published: April 17, 2007

TOKYO: When Nagasaki's mayor was fatally shot in southern Japan, it was not much of a surprise that a gangster was arrested. In a country where regular citizens face strict gun laws, the mob does most of the shooting.

Iccho Ito, 61, died early Wednesday after being shot twice in the back Tuesday evening. Tetsuya Shiroo, a senior member of Japan's largest crime syndicate, the Yamaguchi-gumi, was captured at the scene and admitted to the attack, police said.

"This murder, which took place in the middle of an election campaign, is a threat to democracy," Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said Wednesday. "Though Japanese law enforcement is already severe by international standards, we must clamp down on gun crime even further."

The killing — reportedly linked to Shiroo's demands for city compensation for car damage caused by a pothole — focused attention on the role of the Japanese mafia, or "yakuza," in the country's rare shootings.

Of the 53 gun attacks reported in 2006, two-thirds — 36 — were blamed on organized crime groups, the National Police Agency says.
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Handguns are strictly banned for Japan's ordinary citizens. Only police and some others with job-related reasons can own them. Hunting rifles are strictly regulated.

But crime syndicates have the money, numbers and international connections to smuggle in guns.

Even fellow gangsters seemed to think Shiroo had gone too far.

Motohisa Mizuta, leader of Suishinkai — Shiroo's Yamaguchi-gumi branch — notified police Wednesday that the branch was disbanding, according to Nagasaki police official Koji Minami.

Minami gave no reason, but said Suishinkai most likely "wanted to take responsibility" for the slaying.

Tuesday's attack came despite a sharp drop in shootings in recent years.

The number of reported gun attacks have plunged from 158 in 2002 — with 70 percent blamed on yakuza — to 53 last year.

The number of illegal guns seized by police dropped by nearly 40 percent from 2002 to 2006, when 458 firearms were confiscated.

Even gangsters prefer knives for mob hits, because gun murders typically carry heavier sentences. Instead, mobsters sometimes use guns for intimidation, for example shooting the outside of an office to warn occupants.

Still, public concern remains high amid a widely publicized turf war between Japan's two largest underworld gangs earlier this year. The feud ended a yearlong lull in gang violence.

The boss of a gang affiliated with the Tokyo-based Sumiyoshi-kai syndicate was shot dead in February, in a killing believed to have prompted at least three more shootings at gangland headquarters in Tokyo.

"I want Japanese laws to protect the general public," said Shinichi Tada, a 44-year-old manufacturing company worker in Tokyo.

"I do not want Japan to be like the U.S.," he added, referring to Monday's massacre in Virginia that killed at least 33 people.

Japan's organized crime groups are typically involved in real estate and construction kickback schemes, extortion, gambling, the sex industry, drug trafficking and gunrunning.

Noriyoshi Takemura, criminologist at Toin University in Yokohama, said tight weapons laws make Japan an attractive market for gunrunners.

"There are not many guns made in Japan. The tighter the control is, the higher the price goes up," he said.

Tuesday's attack appeared linked to a dispute between Shiroo and Nagasaki city.

Shiroo reportedly clashed with city officials in 2003 after his car was damaged when he drove into a hole at a public works site.

In a typical mob extortion attempt, he tried unsuccessfully to get compensation from the city after his insurance company refused to pay, according to public broadcaster NHK.

It also reported that Shiroo intended to kill himself after shooting Ito.

Ito, backed by the ruling Liberal Democratic Party, had been campaigning for his fourth term in office in Sunday elections. He was an active figure in the movement against nuclear proliferation.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon expressed "shock and regret" at Ito's assassination, calling him "a champion of peace for a world where nuclear war would never happen again," the U.N. said.

The secretary-general, visiting Rome, "expresses his deepest condolences to his family and friends, to the citizens of Nagasaki and Japan, to the many who work for a world without nuclear weapons," said U.N. deputy spokeswoman Marie Okabe.

"As mayor of the second city that had been destroyed by atomic weapons in 1945, Mayor Ito was a champion of peace for a world where nuclear war would never happen again," Okabe said.

Ito's brother-in-law and a local journalist, Makoto Yokoo, said Wednesday he would run for Nagasaki mayor in Ito's place, according to Kyodo News agency.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (203512)4/21/2007 4:15:47 AM
From: unclewest  Respond to of 793804
 
Investors Business Daily:

ibdeditorials.com

Unarmed And Dangerous
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

Five years ago, armed college students subdued a gunman embarking on a college killing spree. Last year, Virginia Tech applauded the fact that its students couldn't do the same.

On Jan. 16, 2002 , a killer stalked the campus of the Appalachian School of Law in Grundy, Va., not far from the site of Monday's massacre at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg. A disgruntled former student killed Law Dean L. Anthony Sutin, associate professor Thomas Blackwell and a student.

Two of the three law students who overpowered Peter Odighizuwa before he could kill more innocent victims were armed. Mikael Gross and Tracy Bridges, seeing the killing spree begin, went to their cars, retrieved their guns and used them to disarm the shooter.

As John Lott Jr. tells it in his book, "The Bias Against Guns" (Regnery, 2003), while most were fleeing the gunman, "Mikael and Tracy were prepared to do something quite different: Both immediately ran to their cars and got their guns. Mikael had to run about one hundred yards to get to his car."

Lott continues: "Along with Ted Besen (who was unarmed), they approached Peter from different sides. As Tracy explains it, "I stopped at my vehicle and got a handgun, a revolver. Ted went toward Peter, and I aimed the gun at (Peter), and Peter tossed his gun down." Then the three jumped on the gunman and the killing stopped.

Bernard Goldberg, in his book "Arrogance" (Warner, 2003), reports how the media reported the tragic events of that day. He notes that Lott did a LexisNexis search and found that only four of 208 news reports mentioned the rescuers had guns. James Eaves-Johnson did his own LexisNexis search for the Daily Iowan (University of Iowa) and found that only two of 88 stories mentioned that armed students subdued the killer and prevented more deaths.

Similarly, few media outlets have mentioned that, in the right-to-carry state of Virginia — whose freshman senator, James Webb, packs heat, and whose aide was caught carrying that gun in a bag onto Senate grounds — the Virginia Tech campus was a gun-free zone. At least for the prey, if not the predators. And Virginia Tech officials wanted it that way.

Last year, House Bill 1572 died in the Virginia General Assembly, failing to even get out of the Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. The legislation was designed, as the Roanoke Times reported, to prohibit public universities from making "rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit . . . from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun."

On hearing of the bill's defeat, Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker said: "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on campus." And predators like Cho Seung-Hui.

One wonders if Cho Seung-Hui would have even walked on campus with a gun if he knew his victims were able to defend themselves. Or how the story would have been different had Prof. Liviu Librescu, a Holocaust survivor who lost his life barricading a classroom door so his students could escape, had been able to fire back.