To: Slagle who wrote (17513 ) 4/21/2007 4:47:08 AM From: Seeker of Truth Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 218051 It reminds one of Sumo wrestlers. They look evenly matched at first but eventually one of them gets tired and weaker and ultimately is defeated. The antagonists might be named as the insular group and the global group. The insular group includes recently self declared Nazi adherents such as Slade, most farmers of the world, all kinds of patriots, breathing fire at each other because they are some how different. The centralization tendency INSIDE countries is quite evident. The crowds migrate into the cities. That is where the new techniques are, where different technologies interact beneficially with each other. The city has the jobs. Central urban real estate soars in price. The formation of super countries, such as the EU, is necessarily gradual. There has been and will be much backtracking and zigzagging, but the trend is there. Who wants the EU? Capitalists want it because they can expand more readily. Proletarians want it because they can more easily go to where the jobs are. Farmers(mostly subsidized) oppose it because they fear that their subsidies will be secondary to a government which is not exclusively rooted in their own sacred soil. One great obstacle to internationalization is the lack of a beautiful lingua franca. English is stupid and illogical as any of us who have ever tried to teach it know. But instant translation will overcome much of this problem. Technological advances are continually reducing the number of farmers, hence to the extent that numbers decide the matter, we can expect the influence of farmers to weaken. The inevitable technology advances cannot generally make us investors rich because the competition is too great. When one little group invents something the success is short term because a pack of other little groups will invent something similar or better; competition is too intense. Tobago Jack long ago pointed this out during the tech shares boom. On the other hand urban real estate has been fine, in Europe and Asia both. Fine is an understatement.