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To: sea_urchin who wrote (14900)4/23/2007 5:29:51 AM
From: Cyprian  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22250
 
Alfred J. Kolatch, The Jewish Book of Why c. 1981 p. 44:

Why are the phrases mazal tov and siman tov shouted at the end of the wedding ceremony, after the glass is broken by the groom?

As far back as the Middle Ages, two types of congratulations were shouted at the bride and groom at the conclusion of the wedding ceremony. Ashkenazim used the words mazal tov and Sefardim siman tov. Both have ancient roots.

In biblical and talmudic times, mazal was a star, a constellation of the zodiac, and also a planet. In those days it was widely believed that man's fate depended on the position of the stars. Mazal tov, "good star," later took on a secondary meaning, "good luck."

Siman tov, meaning "good omen," is of talmudic origin. It was retained by the Sephardic community as a way of expressing "congratulations."



To: sea_urchin who wrote (14900)4/25/2007 3:19:48 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22250
 
Re: Gus, one would have thought they would have waited for Sarkozy to win before they printed their Mazal Tov stamp.

But, perhaps he already has??!!


According to the election math, he has, indeed:

a) Sarkozy got about 31% of the votes on his name
b) He can count on a sizable support from Le Pen voters, ie about 11%
c) He can also expect support from a few of de Villiers voters, ie about 2.2%
d) Most if not all CNPT voters (Frédéric Nihous/Chasse Nature Peche et Tradition --Hunting Wildlife Fishing and Tradition) are rightwing --another 1.5%

Grand Total: about 45%.

Bottom line, all Sarkozy has to do is to appeal to 5% of François Bayrou's electorate --no big deal, since Bayrou voters are roughly split fifty-fifty as left-leaning and right-leaning, which means that about 9% of Bayrou voters are likely to vote for Sarkozy --QED.

Gus