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To: Rambi who wrote (203634)	4/21/2007 7:02:27 PM
From: MulhollandDrive	Respond to of 793899

Carrying should be a privilege as well as a right with all the responsibilities inherent in that. i am totally with you on that while i see the 2nd amendment as absolute, i do not believe the founders could have foreseen the ability of crazies to have such easy access to firearms...(see Message 23470707 piece by penn and teller) i'm very much in favor of a very high bar (meaning background testing, wait time, proficiency testing) to get firearms in the right hands and once that bar has been met, the right to carry the only thing i can see that could have mitigated cho's murder spree was potentially a well trained, armed professor or student btw, yet another killing in a 'gun free zone' (what a farce) chron.com at least the guy didn't go 'postal' and run his victim tally into massacre proportions

To: Rambi who wrote (203634)	4/22/2007 11:45:46 AM
From: Alan Smithee	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793899

I just hope you see that I am not arguing against arming anyone or exploring more and better ways to protect students, but only to be careful of how it's done, considering the studies and peculiar situations of campus life. Carrying should be a privilege as well as a right with all the responsibilities inherent in that. Since this discussion originated in large part because of the shooting at VT, I thought it would be interesting to look at the requirements for concealed carry in Virginia. Take a class, NRA, military, security guard, police training, etc. Go to the Circuit court of your residence. Ask the Clerk of the Court for a "Concealed Weapon Permit Application." Fill out the application form and bring driver's license, DD-214 (if prior military). While the speed that each jurisdiction processes the permit application differs, by state law the permit must be issued or denied within 45 days of application. So, firearms education is required before a permit will be issued. Also, the applicant has to be at least 21-years old.