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To: Alan Smithee who wrote (203706)4/22/2007 11:16:10 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 793843
 
Alan, it applies to the allegedly irrational too. In the case you mentioned, he did not plan on being caught. If he knew he would be caught, and the consequences of being caught were not what he wanted to result from his actions, he would not have done them.

So, for example, suppose he knew that the minute he pulled his guns out, a stun grenade would go off, he'd be incapacitated, caught alive and uninjured, to then be taken into permanent custody for re-education.

His idea was that he could get away with his plan.

There wasn't much chance of him being caught because it's pretty tricky to stop somebody attacking a lot of people somehow, then killing themselves.

But the fact that it's difficult doesn't mean the principle doesn't apply. It does.

The idea that it doesn't apply is defeatist, surrender monkey ideology.

I have noticed over many years that the "sociopaths" and "mentally ill", who are allegedly unaware of their actions and so on, don't take on great big ogres who will easily defeat them and make life difficult for them. No, they take on victims who cannot fight back effectively, or at all.

They plan their actions to get away with as much as they can without, or before, being caught. Which is pretty much what "rational" and "sane" people do too who have an unethical mindset.

Mqurice