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To: neolib who wrote (36687)	4/22/2007 3:50:05 PM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541945

But what is failure to stabilize the country, against an insurgency that aims to drive us out? What has happened post-Saddam is the failure to help the Iraqis to stabilize own their country. They are primarily killing each other, not killing us. If we can't help them to stop killing each other, we haven't lost a war with Iraq, they have descended into another one. If the people of Somalia continue killing each other en masse, and the Ethiopians decide after a year or two that sitting around in Somalia isn't giving them any benefit, and the Ethiopians leave and Somalia once again descends into civil war, did the Ethiopian lose a war, or did they just decide that the price to pay to help the Somalians is not worth the cost of Ethiopian lives? There are better ways to describe a US decision to leave Iraq that a defeat in a war. You can use that terminology if you want, but there are much more accurate words to describe the situation. Losers in wars don't get to just leave and go play the stock market and root for the Golden State Warriors in this year's playoffs. They usually have to avoid being killed by the winners, who are now occupying their homes.