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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (228211)4/22/2007 8:02:30 PM
From: epicure  Respond to of 281500
 
Amazing

well, I'm glad they're happy

So let's leave and let them have the carnage if they like it better. Frankly I'm skeptical about the poll, but find it a thrilling excuse to leave.

Let's go.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (228211)4/22/2007 9:35:12 PM
From: epicure  Respond to of 281500
 
i checked out that poll:

"You’re better off with the summary at the polling firm’s website than the Times of London article, which misleads a bit in reporting that only 27% of Iraqis say the country is in a state of civil war. That’s accurate as far as it goes, but another 22% say they’re “close” to a civil war but not there yet. TOL neglects to mention that."

"If you can spare the time and concentration, it’s worth flipping through the crosstabs to compare the numbers by sect and ethnic group. Keep in mind that “Sunnis” encompasses both Arabs, most of whom are militantly opposed to the U.S. presence, and Kurds, most of whom are militantly in favor. So on page 26, where we find 51% of Sunnis and 31% of Arabs think life was better under Saddam, those numbers represent a huge majority of Sunni Arabs who say yes offset by equally huge majorities of Sunni Kurds and Arab Shiites, respectively, who say no. To get a rough sense of Sunni Arab opinion, check the region-by-region numbers for Anbar province. In this case, we find 78% preferred Saddam to the new government."

Interesting bit down at the bottom about oversampling Sunnis-
"If in fact Sunni Arabs were oversampled, it means the actual popularity of the Maliki government is probably a little higher than the survey would indicate. So maybe it is a clear majority who prefer him to Saddam. It’s just that the majority is overwhelmingly Shiite."

I suppose people being wiped out by genocide generally prefer the time when they weren't being wiped out. Not that the Sunni are blameless, but they know what's coming- I think we all do.

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