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To: SARMAN who wrote (228238)	4/23/2007 10:02:57 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

You are a lying hypocrite sarman. Say what you mean. Until israel is destroyed there will be no peace. Nothing will satisfy the arabs until that day and any moderates who stand in the way will be killed. Terrorism is justified until the jews are killed and after the jews are killed terror will still be justified until the americans are driven out. And beyond that you will justify the muslim desire to regain lost european lands. At that time you will use your fifth column there to use the same terror tactics against the naive and feckless euros. In a sense you are the more violent version of Al Sharpton of the Muslim world my friend and merely an ambulance chaser for the terrorists and the whining arab nationalists.

To: SARMAN who wrote (228238)	4/23/2007 10:27:13 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Sarman, when lizarre just focuses on one Muslim man actions and stands and yells "look what Muslims are doing" that is bigotry and hate mongering. Surly you would have spotted his bigotry. Please show me the post where he can be quoted as having said what you assert? I can't find it. But I did find THIS post by Lazarre, and it clearly refutes your quotation above: Message 23481055 We all know, Hawkmoon, that I never said nor implied rape occurs only in the Islamic world; it's just more widely accepted from a cultural basis ( not a religious one, I hope, never having read the Koran )..... ...Just as disturbing is the cultural mindset some Moslem men have about murder. That's just a plainly observable FACT. If stats were compiled as to how many people were being CURRENTLY being killed worldwide in the name of religious intolerance, Islam would rank very highly on that list. It's a very SAD truth, that I think is in the interest of BOTH OF US to condemn. Just as I READILY WILL CONDEMN violence perpetrated by non-Muslim religious fanatics, you should be just as ready to condemn such violence being perpetrated by other Muslims. Because they are DEFILING AND TWISTING your faith, Sarman!! They are hijacking your religion to fulfill their agenda of global Jihad against the rest of the world in order to forcibly convert people to believe their particular "flavor" of violent Islam. And they are committing these atrocities in the name of "God, or "Allah", or "Jehovah".. etc which ANYONE of a spiritual nature should recognize is the ANTITHESIS of what any peaceful and benevolent supreme being would desire of it's worshippers. YOU have an obligation to judge these fanatics who are trying to usurp the peaceful spitituality of you faith, just as I would of fanatics like Eric Rudolph blowing up abortion clinics in the name of radical Christianity. If we refuse to denounce them, we will only encourage more people to adopt their violent ways. So, I disagree with you... it IS your job, as well as everyone elses, to unify in condemning acts of religious violence. Because Allah will judge you for your indifference, if not willful complacency, in permitting his name to be defiled by such acts of violence committed in his name. Sharia grants you the permission to judge, and punish, your fellow muslims. So don't tell me you don't have neither the right, nor the obligation, to judge violence perpetrated by your fellow muslims. Because the Muslim man who raped that Muslim women certainly judged her, and then executed the "punishment" as he had been indoctrinated by his religious mentors. Hawk