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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (204003)4/24/2007 7:02:30 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 793917
 
We fought the japanese and they were religious fanatics. FDR and truman knew what it took to take the battle to their home lands



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (204003)4/24/2007 9:29:17 PM
From: unclewest  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793917
 
I recommend fighting Islamic Jihad with a better ideology. The PNAC is not a better ideology. It might surprise you to learn it, but not many of the other 96% of humans think we owe the USA a living and should be run by the USA. On the contrary, you will find that it gets very tiring trying to force that ideology on everyone. It's called slavery. Yes, I know anyone who opposes unchecked USA rule of the world is a terrorist, but bunging them in Guantanamo Bay and otherwise bullying them is not a good look.

The first sentence is a nice intro that I can agree with.

The rest is junk.

1 out 4 humans is Muslim. That is 1.5 billion. 1 out of 10 of them is a Muslim militant. That is 150 million. Either you feel the threat now or it will feel you. Eventually, you will be in the fight.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (204003)4/24/2007 9:42:39 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793917
 
I recommend fighting Islamic Jihad with a better ideology.

We are, MQ. But indirectly. The mission here is twofold.

First, find and kill the Salafi Jihadists who are directly fighting us. We use police action to do this when possible, war action when it's not. Shut down their organizations and money supply sources.

Secondly, help globalization spread as fast as possible. This is the only real long term solution. You may believe that we are asking you to lay down, spread your legs, and enjoy getting Americanized. [In your case, that's true. And you are.]

Our "Ideology" is a prosaic one. Capitalism. But what it really means is that almost everybody wants our "stuff." They want to be able to buy and use it. The more they do that, the more they get seduced to Western Civilization. Which is the only real cure for Islamism. During this process, the thing Islam fears the most happens. Their women get freedom. This is what they are really fighting against. But they can't win, long term. We can assist the process to some degree, but the Muslim women will do it for themselves.

That's why it is a "long war." To twist an old aphorism, "Keep killing alligators while you drain the swamp."