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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (17672)4/25/2007 2:03:05 AM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217769
 
Silicon Valley VC investing in NZ and China. This is the pointer on where the moolah is going.

All that VC concept is being applied where the action is. Today to make wireless only in the God Forsaken places where Elmat is champion:

Iran, Nigeria, Bangla, Pak where the third and fourth operator is building.

We are over-saturated with technology. I said in 2001: The world has technology that will take until 2017 to diggest. I am not implying it will stop, we certainly move beyond the technologies we have today. But waht we have, is enough for the next ten year.

Look to the past 6: nothing new! Only use iof whatwe have had in 1998.

Any company making olbile phones is making them cheap cheap to seel to poor people.

I'm not denyng that technology effects is percolating down to the bottom of the barrel. I am saying that the real money is in materials.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (17672)9/13/2007 2:44:10 AM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217769
 
"Raw materials are almost free these days". Your ideas are being demolished day by day. See food price increases.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (17672)9/14/2007 4:44:15 PM
From: Snowshoe  Respond to of 217769
 
>>Raw materials are almost free these days thanks to the application of technology.<<

We need technology that lets us substitute cheaper raw materials, like this...

Platinum-free fuel cell developed in Japan
uk.reuters.com

Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:19pm BST

TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan's Daihatsu Motor Co Ltd said on Friday it has developed a technology to make fuel cells without platinum, the precious metal used in the electrolyte process in existing hydrogen-based fuel cells.

By using alkali, instead of acid, anion exchange membranes, Daihatsu's fuel cell can work with less costly metals which are less resistant to corrosion than platinum, such as cobalt or nickel, Daihatsu said in a statement.

Daihatsu, Toyota Motor Corp's minivehicle unit, also said its newly developed fuel cell uses hydrazine hydrate, a liquid industrial material, instead of hydrogen, as an alternative fuel that emits no carbon dioxide.

The new fuel cell generates power similar to that of existing hydrogen-based fuel cell, far more than fuel cell using other liquid fuel, like methanol, the company said.

Now that more countries focus on curbing carbon emissions and environment protection, major auto makers are involved in developing fuel-efficient vehicles including those without using fossil fuels.

"The new technology is giving us diversification in addition to our existing hydrogen-based fuel-cell technology," said Naoyuki Wakabayashi, a Daihatsu spokesman.

Currently, Daihatsu uses about 100 grams of platinum per vehicle in its hydrogen-based fuel-cell vehicles under development. Ordinary gasoline vehicles use about 5 gram per vehicle of platinum as a catalyst to filter out carbon monoxide and particulate emissions.

Cash platinum traded at around $1,285 per ounce (31 grams) in early European trade on Friday, up more than 10 percent since the start of this year. Platinum is mainly used in jewelry and auto catalyst, and is also considered as alternative financial assets to stocks and bonds.

Supply-side issues and limited above-ground stocks have made platinum far more expensive than palladium, another metal used for autocatalytic converters.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (17672)9/14/2007 5:01:02 PM
From: carranza2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217769
 
Raw materials are almost free these days thanks to the application of technology

Ah, no, Mq.

Not free, not almost free, not even cheap.

If you really want to make money in a long term way, a blistering fortune, in fact, put your money on raw materials.

Tar sands, bitumem, crude oil, copper, wheat, corn, palladium, zinc, copper, nickel, etc., the cornucopia of raw materials and commodities will skyrocket in the next few years. Immense wealth awaits those investors clever enough to realize that commodities will be the new 1999 QCOM.

Did I forget gold? Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (17672)9/14/2007 6:37:21 PM
From: KyrosL  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217769
 
What is becoming increasingly free is technology. Raw materials are not dropping much in price. Technology's price is decreasing exponentially. The number of people thinking up new technology is expanding by leaps and bounds. Their productivity is too. There was a quantum leap of people buying this technology as the third world jumped on the globalization bandwagon. That created the illusion that technology is a growth business. Nothing can be further from the truth.