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To: epicure who wrote (228661)	4/25/2007 11:13:46 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Here is all the intelligence on Iraq... Voted against 133 voted against the resolution, 126 of the votes cast were from Democrats, 6 from Republicans, and 1 from the sole independent. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI 1st) Tom Allen (D-ME 11st) Joe Baca (D-CA 42nd) Brian Baird (D-WA 3th) John Baldacci (D-ME 2nd) Tammy Baldwin (D-WI 2nd) Xavier Becerra (D-CA 30th) Earl Blumenauer (D-OR 3rd) David Bonoir (D-MI 10th) Robert Brady (D-PA 1st) Corrine Brown (D-FL 3rd) Sherrod Brown (D-OH 13th) Lois Capps (D-CA 22nd) Michael E. Capuano (D-MA 8th) Ben Cardin (D-MD 3rd) Julia Carson (D-IN 10th) William Lacy Clay, Jr. (D-MO 1st) Eva Clayton (D-NC 1st) James Clyburn (D-SC 6st) Gary Condit (D-CA 18th) John Conyers (D-MI 14st) Jerry Costello (D-IL 12th) William Coyne (D-PA 14th) Elijah Cummings (D-MD 7st) Susan Davis (D-CA 49th) Danny K. Davis (D-IL 7th) Peter DeFazio (D-OR 4th) Diana DeGette (D-CO 1st) William Delahunt (D-MA 10th) Rosa DeLauro (D-CT 3rd) John Dingell (D-MI) 15th Lloyd Doggett (D-TX 25th) Mike Doyle (D-PA 18th) John James Duncan, Jr. (R-TN 2nd) Anna Eshoo (D-CA 14th) Lane Evans (D-IL 17th) Sam Farr (D-CA 17th) Chaka Fattah (D-PA 2nd) Bob Filner (D-CA 50th) Barney Frank (D-MA 4th) Charlie Gonzalez (D-TX 20th) Luis Gutierrez (D-IL 4th) Alcee Hastings (D-FL 23rd) Earl F. Hilliard (D-AL 7th) Maurice Hinchey (D-NY 22nd) Ruben Hinojosa (D-TX 15th) Rush Holt (D-NJ 12th) Mike Honda (D-CA 15th) Darlene Hooley (D-OR 5th) John Hostettler (R-IN 8th) Amo Houghton (R-NY 29th) Jay Inslee (D-WA 1st) Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL 2nd) Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX 18th) Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-TX 30th) Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D-OH 11th) Marcy Kaptur (D-OH 9th) Dale E. Kildee (D-MI 5th) Carolyn Kilpatrick (D-MI 13th) Jerry Kleczka (D-WI 4th) Dennis Kucinich (D-OH 10th) John LaFalce (D-NY 29th) James R. Langevin (D-RI 2nd) Rick Larsen (D - WA 2nd) John Larson (D-CT 1st) Jim Leach (R-IA 1st) Barbara Lee (D-CA 9th) Sander Levin (D - MI 12th) John Lewis (D-GA 5th) William Lipinski (D-IL 3rd) Zoe Lofgren (D-CA 16th) James H. Maloney (D-CT 5th) Robert Matsui (D-CA 5th) Karen McCarthy (D-MO 3rd) Betty McCollum (D-MN 4th) Jim McDermott (D-WA 7th) James McGovern (D-MA 3rd) Cynthia McKinney (D-GA 4th) Carrie P. Meek (D-FL 17th) Gregory W. Meeks (D-NY 6th) Bob Menendez (D-NJ 6th) Juanita Millender-McDonald (D-CA 37th) George Miller (D-CA 7th) Alan Mollohan (D - WV 1st) Jim Moran (D-VA 8th) Connie Morella (R-MD 8th) Jerrold Nadler (D-NY 8th) Grace Napolitano (D-CA 34th) Richard E. Neal (D-MA 2nd) James Oberstar (D-MN 8th) David Obey (D-WI7th) John Olver (D-MA 1st) Major Owens (D-NY 11th) Frank Pallone (D-NJ 6th) Ed Pastor (D-AZ 2nd) Ron Paul (R-TX 14th) Donald Payne (D-NJ 10th) Nancy Pelosi (D-CA 8th) David Price (D-NC 4th) Nick Rahall (D-WV 3rd) Charles Rangel (D-NY 15th) Silvestre Reyes (D-TX 16th) Lynn Nancy Rivers (D-MI 13th) Ciro Rodriguez (D-TX 23rd) Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-CA 33rd) Bobby Rush (D-IL 1st) Martin Olav Sabo (D-MN 5th) Loretta Sanchez (D-CA 46th) Bernie Sanders (I-VT At Large) Thomas C. Sawyer (D-OH 13th) Janice D. Schakowsky (D-IL 9th) Robert C. Scott (D-VA 3rd) José E. Serrano (D-NY 16th Louise Slaughter (D-NY 28th) Vic Snyder (D-AR 2nd) Hilda Solis (D-CA 31st) Pete Stark (D-CA 13th) Ted Strickland (D-OH 6th) Bart Stupak (D-MI 1st) Mike Thompson (D-CA 1st) Bennie Thompson (D-MS 2nd) John Tierney (D-MA 6th) Edolphus Towns (D-NY 10th) Mark Udall (D-CO 2nd) Tom Udall (D-NM 3rd) Nydia Velazquez (D-NY 12th) Peter Visclosky (D-IN 1st) Maxine Waters (D-CA 35th) Diane Watson (D-CA 32nd) Mel Watt (D-NC 12th) Lynn Woolsey (D-CA 6th) David Wu (D-OR 1st) ==== Voted against 23 Senators voted against the resolution: Daniel Akaka (D-HI) Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) Barbara Boxer (D-CA) Robert Byrd (D-WV) Lincoln Chafee (R-RI) Jon Corzine (D-NJ) Kent Conrad (D-ND) Mark Dayton (D-MN) Dick Durbin (D-IL) Russ Feingold (D-WI) Bob Graham (D-FL) Daniel Inouye (D-HI) Jim Jeffords (I-VT) Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Patrick Leahy (D-VT) Carl Levin (D-MI) Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) Patty Murray (D-WA) Jack Reed (D-RI) Paul Sarbanes (D-MD) Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) Paul Wellstone (D-MN) Ron Wyden (D-OR)

To: epicure who wrote (228661)	4/25/2007 11:18:52 AM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

"I don't see the connection to what is in your post. It's not just about "Bush was wrong"- it's about how do we NOT do this again." It's about more than that. Another comment you made was about the corrupt Doctor, and how in the real world we need to be looking past the conduct of that Doctor to deal with the real cancer problem. Do you accept the therapy that cures the cancer even though the venue that brought it to you was unwholesome or do you reject it and die? In the real world you click your tongue at what the doctor did but take the medicine to stay alive. In the real world we now know that there was something wrong with the intel we got at the start of the Iraq invasion but we still have a very smart enemy that is not going away. What do we do? Simply walking away is not going to treat the very real problem. The connection... you don't like how you got information about our enemy yet the enemy is very real.